Lump behind leopard geckos eye

verszes

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I made a previous post asking about my leopard gecko a while ago but now he's been recovering and looks a lot better. He's eating a bunch now and gaining weight but the worry now is one of the lumps on his head hasn't gone like the other one did (It popped at the vets i was told) it looks like it is getting bigger and it's not looking good because that eye has only just recovered and it's going down hill again. I can't afford another vet visit just yet so i was wondering if there is anything i could do to help get rid of it? I'll leave some pictures. I was wondering what type of calcium or vitamins I would need if he has Metabolic Bone Disease? he has Calci-Dust right now and also Repto-Boost which i got from the vets but i don't think just the normal calcium is enough.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y511/ozpejne/IMAG0675_zpse23ff908.jpg
(Visible Lump)
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y511/ozpejne/IMAG0666_zpsd4573115.jpg
(His good eye which recovered from the same lump of infection)
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y511/ozpejne/IMAG0685_zps44806cad.jpg
(Eye lid looks crooked when he closes eye over)

Also, he was born without a tail before people judge, he is missing some ends of toes too but that one was my fault for not noticing the bad sheds when he was a hatchling he now gets bathed when shedding.
 
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sausage

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He is quite under weight in the pics, and his stance and position of the legs dose suggest that he has MBD. you need to have a bowl of pure calcium in the cage at all times, you also should be dusting his food a few time a week with a vit/ calcium mix that contains D3. as calcium will not be a absorbed into the body without it. i would also suggest adding a 2% UV light into the cage to help increasing the calcium levels in his body. the UV only needs to be on for 3 or 4 hours a day.
i cant help with the lump as im not a vet, but if hes had one already and it burst then this one could be an abses too.
cant you take him to the vet and arrange a payment plan with them so ou can pay them back in small amounts?
 

verszes

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He still is under weight but he was skinnier when he was unwell, he's gaining more and more since he started eating. He has a bowl of calcium in his tank i sometimes put his food in that bowl so i can make sure hes actually eating the calcium, when i feed him crickets i make sure i dust them with calcium now but i wasn't doing that during the time he stopped eating. I'll have to ring the vet up and ask if I'd be able to do that i didn't think veterinary places allowed that.
I was told they didn't need light so he hasn't had one after the first few weeks of him being a hatchling because it broke, is this maybe why he has bad bones?
 

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Leopard geckos don't need light. They need high quality gutloaded food and a vitamin and mineral supplement from hatching. Their mothers also need these things before and during egg laying so they can pass the high quality nutrients on to their offspring. Your little guy looks like he had a rough start. I would agree that MBD is a possibility and he looks like he is missing a few toes probably from a lack of humidity or a proper humid hide. The bump behind his eye could be related to these conditions or the start of an infection. Unfortunately he needs vet care to help remedy these problems so I would suggest calling around and finding out how much you need to save to bring him to one or finding a rescue that may be willing to take him to get the help he needs.
 

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studies on gecko species such as the leo show that they do infect benefit from a very low dose UV light in captivity. In the wild you don’t see problems like MBD because they receive small doses of UV despite the fact that they are hiding away. UV penetrates through the ground into their borrows ect. Wild leos have also been observed resting with their tails or a leg hanging out in the sun to absorb UV.
 

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I can understand how they might get small doses in the wild but cannot see UV penetrating the ground (why not my windows, the roof of my house and the rack then?) I would love to see the studies you mentioned! Not that I doubt you but out of personal curiosity!!

The biggest difference I see is that those in the wild have the choice to expose themselves or not to meet their needs. In captivity they are forced to deal with whatever conditions we supply. I provide a full spectrum florescent light in my reptile room but it is in a floor lamp near their rack. It may provide indirect exposure but they are not directly exposed to it.
 

sausage

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by all means, once i get my lap top back from being repaired i will try and upload some journals on research i have found for my degree.

UV dose penetrate through most materials but not all. glass is really good at blocking UV, not completely but it is dramatically reduced. the UV is then further reduced as it passes through further materials, so once natural light has got to your reptile its not existent any more.
surely if they have the choice to expose themselves or not in the wild they should be given the choice to in captivity? giving captive animals the best welfare possible involve providing the correct environment for them and more importantly giving them choice.
 

verszes

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His little stump tail has gotten fatter and so has he now so i'm assuming he is doing okay on vitamins and minerals now hopefully, i forgot to ask in the question, my gecko makes a real loud squeaking noise when he poops sometimes is that something to worry about or is it constipation?
 

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