Mack snow albino

[thegeckoguy]

So i know to make a MSA you need a mack snow and an albino. But how do you make one? Like does the MSA come right from that pairing or do you need to breed the offspring together or breed back to the parents? Thanks in advance

 

[rvmaine]

For Make your MSA you must have in the minimum a Mack Snow Het Albi .

After for the other gecko it's can be a mack Snow Het Albi or same a Albino .

If you have your Mack and your albino : Yes , you must breed the offspring together for Hatch MSA .

 

[thegeckoguy]

so just a mack and tremper ill have to breed the offspring together. Ok so if the mack is het albino and i breed that to an albino i get MSA's? Or it can be the other way around like i have an albino het mack x mack? Thanks

 

[fallen_angel]

Mack Snow + Tremper = 100% het. Tremper babies

Mack Snow het. Tremper + Mack Snow het. Tremper = 25 percent albinos, 75 percent non-albinos (and 66.6% of the non-albinos will be het. for albino)

Mack Snow het. Tremper + Tremper = 50 percent albinos and 50 percent non-albinos that are 100% het. Tremper

Mack Snow Tremper albino + Mack Snow = 50 percent non-albinos and 50 percent het. for albino

the only way to prove if a gecko is a het. or not is through breeding, unless they are 100% het.

hope this helps!

 

[thegeckoguy]

so when your refering to albino you mean MSA right?

 

[paulnj]

simply put...

to make a mack snow albino you need a het albino and albino with one carrying the mack gene. You can use a mack het albino, mack albino , super snow het albino or SS albino with albinos to achive that goal. Using 2 hets will give you possible het offspring and lower your odds.

 

[thegeckoguy]

ok thanks

 

[fallen_angel]

In my explanation, when I said just Tremper, I meant, just a normal albino and said Mack Snow Tremper when talking about MSAs

 

[Stitch]

In my explanation, when I said just Tremper, I meant, just a normal albino and said Mack Snow Tremper when talking about MSAs

You never mentioned the MS possibilities in your outcomes. That's what thegeckoguy was reffering to. :main_thumbsup:

 

[fallen_angel]

You never mentioned the MS possibilities in your outcomes. That's what thegeckoguy was reffering to. :main_thumbsup:

Oh I see now, I had to re-read that a few times! So basically, you just take multiply the albino odds by the snow odds.

So, het. X het. = 1/4 albino

25% will be normal
50% MSA
25% SSA

so the chances of getting a normal albino or a super snow albino - 1/16
chances of getting a MSA - 1/8

 

[Stitch]

actually, I was just answering this question:

so when your refering to albino you mean MSA right?

because when I said albinos, I was just talking about albinos, not MSAs :main_yes:

I understand that.

Lets look at it this way, you gave him this outcome:

Mack Snow + Tremper = 100% het. Tremper babies

This only shows the outcome for the albino gene and not the MS gene. The outcome should have been listed as 50% MS/50% normal all 100% het for albino. He was looking to make a MSA, so he needs to know what the entire outcome is.

Do you see what I mean? He saw the MS in the crossings but not in the outcome.

 

[fallen_angel]

Mack Snow het. albino X albino = 1/2 normals, 1/2 snows, all 50% albino

so chances of getting a normal albino - 1/4
chances of getting MSA - 1/4

 

[fallen_angel]

I understand that.

Lets look at it this way, you gave him this outcome:

This only shows the outcome for the albino gene and not the MS gene. The outcome should have been listed as 50% MS/50% normal all 100% het for albino. He was looking to make a MSA, so he needs to know what the entire outcome is.

Do you see what I mean? He saw the MS is the crossings but not in the outcome.

Sorry, I understood after looking at it for awhile and edited my response! :main_yes:

 

[thegeckoguy]

so, when i breed a MS to an albino i get 50% MS and 50% normal all het. for albino. Got that. So then if i take one of the MS het. albinos and breed it back to the albino parent my odds of a MSA are 25%(1/4)?

 

[paulnj]

correct

 

[thegeckoguy]

ok cool thanks!

 

[Baysidegeckos]

The best thing to do in my opinion is Get a Male Macl snow het for albino and an albino female. Breed the Mack snow het albino male to the albino female, and incubate every egg for female. Then breed the offspring back to the Father ( Male Mack Snow het albino)

Doing this you will get MSA in the first generation, and the 2nd generatin you will get Super Snow Albinos.

 

[thegeckoguy]

ok cool! I have a tremper albino female now all i need is a mack lol. Thanks for all your help guys!

 

[thegeckoguy]

ok so when i breed for female when the female(s) are breeding age would i get all MSA or just a percentage? And in the second gen. what are the odds of getting SSA?

 

[paulnj]

mack tremper

plus female tremper gives 50% mack tremper/ 50% tremper:main_thumbsup: