making a rack

paulnj

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Since I got so many requests for how to build hatchling racks and 15/32qt racks here goes nothing.

First off I want everyone to know that my racks aren't the prettiest, but they work perfectly and are not hard to make at all. Sure I plan to get the iron on pretty stuff to make them nicer looking, but these were quick throw togethers until I build a whole new LARGER set of racks in my basement that are built prettier.

Here is a 24ct 6qt hatchling rack stacked on another(I have 3) and I also have a 12 ct 15qt(or 6 count 32qt) that is honestly too cluttered to show off. They are made the same way.

Bad lighting and cluttered small room ;)
hatchlingrack1.jpg

higher angle
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To make a 24 ct 6qt sterilite rack you need one sheet of melamine from home depot and have them cut the narrow side down to 48 inches(it's 49" wide). From there you need 6 pieces that are 14 wide by 48 long. 5 of those are shelves and the top. Take the 6th piece and cut that in half into 2 pieces 24 inches long to make the sides. Now you have the material to build the rack.

To make a 12ct 15qt(or 6ct 32qt) you need one sheet of melamine too. Cut it down to 48 wide, then you need 5 pieces cut to 17.5 inches by 48. Take one of those and cut in half(24x17.5) to make the sides. I made my 15qt rack that wide so the hatchling rack can stack on top if need be. The rack is actually roughly 4 inches wider than needed for the tubs. If you don't need to stack and want a tight fitting rack go with 4 pieces 45 x 17.5 and the sides still 24x 17.5 .

For the back which is what keeps it sturdy all you need is a cheap piece of pegbourd, partical bourd or I use 1/8" ply that's 24x 48 and cut it down a bit to 22" x 48". The back isn't wide enough, but you'll see why ;)

OK, use these directions to build the rack(also a great rack idea BTW)
http://www.arbreptiles.com/cages/rack.shtml

Since I use belly heat. I wire up the pieces parallel(3 pieces 44 inches long for the 15qt and 4 pieces 46" long for the 6qt) http://www.beanfarm.com/heating/Flexwatt_parallel.pdf


Now you have the rack built(no back yet and it's flimsy) and the flexwatt wired. Put your flex watt in through the back and tape it down 3-4 inches from the back or wherever you decide to put it.The jumper wires are going shelf to shelf out the back on one side. That's why the back is too narrow to allow for spacing for the wiring.

Alot of people don't want to wire the flexwatt , so read this thread
http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=13481

My wiring is loose, so I use 14" jumper wires? on a hatchling rack and alittle longer on a 15qt rack. When ordering flexwatt prewired just let them know it's for a 6qt rack or a 15qt rack(both sterilte). They have built plenty of racks and know exactly what size jumpers you should need I would think.

Get the rack level after taping in the flexwatt with Aluminum Foil Tape and secure the back piece to sturdy it up.

run the tape full power for awhile to break it in , add a thermostat to get it to the temps you desire, add tubs and animals.

DONE:main_thumbsup:
 

supperl

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Nice Rack Paul!
Flexwatt makes everything to damn easy^^
In Germany flexwatt isn´t common we have heatpads(expensive) and Heatcables(round^^) which made me trcik a bit with the cable for my hatchling rack.
 

paulnj

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Thorsten can you get heat pads that are thin and long( 4 x 47)? I seen some at a show this weekend and they were said to only run as hot as 90's and were roughly $50? That's alot for 4, but no need for a thermostat either.

Heat cable can be routered in or you could always put it down and run some 1/4 slats on the front and one either side of the cable(raising the tub above the heat cable). That would raise the height of each shelf though.
 

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Yeah I could get these padys they look like Flexwatt could get them over a Germany Rack builder or over Desert Gems from the Netherlands(nice ppl with nice Geckos^^). But it´s so Expensive. I would need to buy a pad each row and I have 3 parts with each 4 rows and that would mean many many money(I´ll take a pic tomorrow). I decided to take the cable (I needed 3 for 20 bucks each) and done it like you said
paulnj said:
you could always put it down and run some 1/4 slats on the front and one either side of the cable(raising the tub above the heat cable). That would raise the height of each shelf though.

and it works (not perfectly but its 90% satifying^^).
I would have taken felx watt but we have different energysystems. Wel lwhatevery it just took me more time but it´s somewho the same price (paid 3 times 20 bucks for the cables and once 30 bucks for the Thermostat)

EDIT: No dirty little bugs anymore its BUCKS time^^
 
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paulnj

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15 QT's are $4 each at target on sale, so $36 for tubs.
Melamine is just under $30 a sheet and they precut it.
12 feet of flexwatt runs roughly $50 prewired and shipped?(I buy flexwatt 100 feet at a time and solder connections though)
Tape is like $5-7

$120 or so to build is my estimate. Atleast half the cost of most other racks of that size!!!!! They hold the same amount as AP economy racks and you can stack them atleast 2 high. You may be able to go higher, but I am not commenting if something should go wrong ;)
 
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On the idea of stacking your racks together.....

If you are not comfortable with "free stacking " on top of each other

you could always get some 90 degree brackets from Home depot or lowes.

I would put at least 2 on each side and maybe 2 in the back. This may seem

like overkill but for those over paranoid people sometimes its never enough.

Melamine is somewhat heavy, and so are some other materials your rack

can be made of.

Just tryin to help....
 

brcg

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Hi guys,

Paul, sorry to insert myself with pics but is just to help.

Thorsten, I live in Spain, and believe me things here are even more expensive then in Germany, so I've came up with 2 options you can see them at the pics bellow:

#1
RACKGECKOS4.jpg


For my last Rack I used Flexwatt, that i bought at www.beanfarm.com (they export), and wired it myself(to be cheaper), that way I got 50ft(15mt) of flexwatt for the price of 1 heat pad here, then I went to the electrical store and bought a voltage converter from 220 to 110 (500 watt capacity). I conected all 7 shells independently so there where 7 plugs so they can be shut down if not needed
The result is that I have 7 shells heated and with termostat for the price of 3 heat pads here, and I believe this system is less electricity consuming. You can see a pic of this one completed at: http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=15255


#2
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For a Colubrid hatcling I made a Rack about a year ago and I faced myself with the same problem, then I didn't touth about the flexwatt as nobody wanted to export, so I went for the heat cable and to avoid having to lift the boxes or the boxes touching the cable I made a "canal" with a proper machine (just bougth the machine because it was very cheap) this canal can be made at any wood shop and the cable goes inside covered with aluminium tape.
You can see the construction of this rack at:
http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/brxg/BATERIA CRIAS REDUCIDAS/

Regards
Bruno
 
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brcg

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Thanks Paul, sorry to takeover your post, just tought it might help.

Thats a amazing complement coming from someone like you, thanks.

I would like to ask you something, I can't use melanine because the place where I live has as very high humidity and melanine doesn't last, I've lived in Philadelphia for a year and is just "next" to NJ, don't you face that problem?

Regards
Bruno
 

paulnj

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not at all. I built cages in the 90's from it and they lasted 7 years before I smashed them to throw them away. I bed pythons in them too and had them lined on the floor and 1 foot up the walls in plastic though. It got even more humid in my rep room than the typical 60% we get here also at times with all my humidity loving reptiles.
 

brcg

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Ok tought the humidity was higher there, here I have around 80% in reptile room and I have to have fans 24H a day to avoid 100% moist on the roof, I can't use melanine but I have one advantage no shedding problems.

To bad I didn't knew you when I went to the USA, I would have loved to see all those Geckos live

Bruno
 

paulnj

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The humidity hits 80-90% in the summers, but the AC removes humidity from the air in my house in the summer.

You can try PVC sheets like others have mastered using. I may just try that on a 6' tall X 4' wide rack someday for the fun of it.
 

brcg

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In the summer it's aufull I had to buy a freezer to incubate as temp around here gets to 37º, and I have to have 3 fans 24/7.

I have been seeing the posts with the PVC sheets I think I will try to do my next Rack with PVC sheets.

Bruno
 

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