Meet my Hypochondroplasia Dwarf, GiGi.

Allee Toler

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So I went to a geneticist a few weeks ago, curious as to why my leopard gecko wasn't acting like a leopard gecko and wasn't as big/looked like a normal leopard gecko. Also, as to why she was ALWAYS sick.

The geneticist says she has a deformity of the FGFR3.

Basically, she's a little gecko. Short arms, short legs, little hands and feet, and short tail. Medium sized body, and big head. All due to when she was forming the FGFR3 gene. She has a very odd stance.

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It won't shorten her life in any way, but she'll always be tiny, and need to be examined once a year for any tumors in her brain. Which I was told happens rarely, but it's more common when the FGFR3 gene is involved.

GiGi's a diagnosed "hypochondroplasia" dwarf.

It's common, he said happening in ALL species at a rate of 1 in 15,000. Most cases are over looked in humans, because they're not extremely small or deformed. It's more visible in small animals and dogs.

6 5/8th" and 31g. My 9 week old is as long as her now, and weighs 19g.
"born" May 18th 2008. at 2.7g just shy of 2" long. Her clutchmates (2 of them) were hatched at over 6g, and over 3 inches long. They've been bred, and all their offspring were normal size except for one who came from Daisy, GiGi's sister who is now retired from breeding because of it.

Her health problems: constant stuffy nose and boogies, hunger strikes, FLD (Fatty liver disease), vitamin A deficiency from her body not absorbing it correctly making us go to the vet every other week for shots, refusal to drink liquids the first year of her life, brain function delay, walking problems (her back legs are always in a "split" position, when she walks, she uses her ankles as leg extensions) and her inability to know what shedding is.

Here's some pictures of my dingbat. She has a CRAZY personality. She's 100% in love with me and my fiance, and loves to be held. She's been trained to kiss you on command. We simply say "kiss kiss GiGi" and she crawls to your face and kisses your nose. We're currently working on her waving. She can get her leg up when we say wave, but I don't think she'll ever actually wave. Lol. It takes a TON of patience and lots of treats. But she's very smart. Smart in the learning aspect, slow in the instincts.

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And this cup, it's 2 1/2 inches wide. This was her first ever hide. She'd lay in it all the time when she was a baby. She still plays in it sometimes. She's standing up big and tall, this is the highest she can stand. About 7/8th" tall. Her back legs barely stand up 1/2". It's more like 1/3".
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So there's my Giovanna. The best leopard gecko I will ever own, and will always be my favorite. She's always getting into trouble, and exploring our bedroom.

The best thing about her, when you call her, she comes out of hiding. Doesn't run to you, but comes out of hiding and waits for you to pick her up. So she's allowed to free roam our room, which she loves. When she's done, she usually climbs onto the bed and goes to sleep (as seen in one of the pictures). She doesn't know she's a reptile. I don't ever want her to think she is either. She's truly genuine. I've never known a more well behaved, well trained, and lovable reptile with such a personality.


Oh and Hi. I'm Allee. I'm usually on the Geckosunlimited board. So some of you may know GiGi. ;] And her antics. Like the one time she climbed up the sliding glass door screen and perched herself on the valance, and I couldn't find her for a few hours since she doesn't talk. Lol. She could get up, but clearly couldn't get down! Haha. I love my GiGi.
 

Allee Toler

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Lol. This was taken a few minutes ago. GiGi and the 9 week old, Luther. He was chasing a cricket.

They're almost the same size now. He's growing fast. =]

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mainelygeckos

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aww that's so cool. Nice to hear of your relationship with her and glad you found her on the valance lol She is a pretty girl no matter how big she is :D Thanks for sharing and Welcome to GF!
 

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Can you get a vid of her demonstrating the kiss command? That's really cool^^.


Not a good idea to have a male and a female together if you don't intend to breed them though, especially with her problems.
 

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Can you get a vid of her demonstrating the kiss command? That's really cool^^.


Not a good idea to have a male and a female together if you don't intend to breed them though, especially with her problems.

+1 in both cases. I've never heard of a trained reptile. :p

It's also hazardous to keep such a small gecko with an adult, ontop of them being of the opposite sex and her being bred...leos have been known to cannibalize smaller leos.
 

Allee Toler

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I'll try to get a video! =D It's just hard because I rarely have a computer, like right now, I'm on my ps3. Lol. I was visiting my mom in law's, so I had some computer access. She's adorable when she does it. I love showing it off.

As for the two, I know the rules, and I know the risks, I'm not new to leos, I went through this on the other board. GiGi will ATTACK ME if I try to take Lu out of the tank. It's her baby. She licks him and follows him and brings him bugs. Lu's only 9 weeks old as of today, and not sexually mature in any way yet, she's not aggressive to him at all, so until I get a female that's close to her size at full grown (haha, how am I going to do that?!?) Lu's staying. When he reaches sexual maturity, he's out of there. No matter how many bites and shrieks I get from her. I don't want a bigger female in with her to dominate her. I may get another baby and let her bond with it. Lol. GiGi was isolated her whole life, then when I introduced her to Liam (A super snow I was watching for a week) she got really attached, so when I took him away, she had what the vet nicknamed the "broken heart gecko blues". Then we got Lu, and she perked up. She'll never be alone as long as she's not food aggressive, or the new baby isn't food aggressive. Hell, GiGi gets hand fed most of the time, so there's really no food competition.

Thanks for the welcomes. =]
 
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Allee Toler

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"-hissss-Stay away from my little buddy!" (you can see Lu sleeping in the background)
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"No! You can't touch him! No pictures!"
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"Fine! But you'll never see him! Lu, go in the back corner!" "but GiGi, I's being squooshed!" "Don't care, go. Mommy wants to take you out of the tank!"
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That's why they're staying together for now. She's very possessive over him.
 

Stitchex

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You seriously need to get a vid of Gigi showing off her tricks, like the kissing and half wave, lol! That would be interesting to see! What substrate do you have them on?


Kasey's right, there really is a serious risk of Lu getting eaten by your Gigi. Even if it may appear that she is "attached" to him, there's a very good chance of you coming home from a vacation with a very full Gigi.
 
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Allee Toler

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i'm still working on the wave. When it gets better, I'll take a video of them both. She only lifts her hand a good... hm...1/4 cm.

I'm leaving them in there together, he's only slightly smaller than her now anyways. If she will eat him, then YAY! She's eating on her own!! And it's my fault for leaving him in with her. The odds of GiGi eating anything is hard to believe. She eats two pinkies a month, willingly, but they have to be on the carpeted floor so if she misses, she's not discouraged with a bump on the clay. She also gets hand fed a mixture of chicken baby food, mixed veggies baby food, calcium liquid, vitamin liquid, butterworms, superworms, mealies, and crickets that have been blended up. She's not an eater. Up until recently we had to hand feed her water because she would never drink. (we had a webcam hooked up and recorded her for three days)

The substrate I use is in this order, the floor is shelf lining, then half the tank has excavator clay, and the other half is slate.

Go on and bash me for the clay while you're at it. ;] I tested it, I put 1tbsp in a cup of cold water, and it completely dissolved. So I'm not worried one bit.
 

Riyo

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Nobody is bashing you, Allee - and I'm on the other forum too so I've seen your other posts. It does not change my opinion of the situation but they are your animals.
 

Allee Toler

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GiGi would freak if I let her stay alone again... She's the reason we got Lu.

I hope he turns into a she. He was sold to us as a male, but it wasn't guaranteed. I'd love him to be a girl, so GiGi can have a forever buddy.

So far, at 9 weeks old, there's faint pores. So... it could go either way I guess.
 

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