Morph names?

[kevinb]

I'm currently trying to breed my trio. I'm wondering what I will produce...male is a high yellow jungle, one female is a Mack snow tremper albino, and other female is a Las Vegas patternless. Any ideas?

Kevin Bullis

 

[kevinb]

Anyone have any ideas on what the offspring Would be?

Kevin Bullis

 

[MemphisReptiles]

Normal het for everything you named,a few snows. Check out Gecko genetic wizard,google it.

 

[IslaReina]

http://www.lovegeckos.com/Genetics.aspx

 

[kevinb]

Thanks for the help!

Kevin Bullis

 

[M_surinamensis]

I'm currently trying to breed my trio. I'm wondering what I will produce...male is a high yellow jungle, one female is a Mack snow tremper albino, and other female is a Las Vegas patternless. Any ideas?

You're probably not going to like this post. Please read it anyway.

There are some pretty sketchy things about what you just wrote. You've mentioned that you're pretty new to breeding (and keeping?), so it's sort of understandable that you'd make mistakes... but you're kind of screwing things up in some small but important ways.

First off, the decision to breed should come after the careful and considered selection of breeding stock. You should not already be breeding when you consider what the pairings will produce. You should first learn about genetics, the physiology of gecko reproduction, breeding behaviors, egg incubation, the sales market, nutrition for breeding animals and their offspring... first you learn, then you select, predict and plan and lastly you actually pair up animals.

Secondly, the decision to breed those combinations is questionable. You have animals representing a bunch of different traits. While some combinations are put together in order to generate multi-trait "designer morphs" that display multiple mutations, what you're going to end up with is a jumbled mess of hets and possible hets. Part of the selection process you should use when picking which animals to breed is going to involve an understanding of the whole project, with a specific goal in mind at the end of it. You should understand what each pairing will produce, how each trait is transmitted and know which steps are necessary to obtain your end goal. The "first male and first female I could get my hands on" approach is frowned upon, it results in genetic grab bags, mystery animals that are not useful to anyone else's breeding projects, often with an appearance that is nothing all that special, which makes selling them far more difficult. Pick a project you like with a specific goal, plan it all out, find and obtain the best animals for your project.

Third, you've got two of the three strains of albinism and a couple traits which change pattern. That first generation would be a bit of a mess, but any subsequent generations produced using those offspring have the potential to be a real genetic nightmare, especially if they're inadequately labeled and identified.

Fourth, didn't you just obtain this group recently? They should be separated, quarantined and observed for the next ninety days before you even consider the idea of ending quarantine, much less breeding. They're brand new animals, you have no idea how healthy they are, no experience observing them as individuals in order to identify change, no clue if they might be harboring illnesses or if their diet was adequate to support healthy breeding activity... anything other than quarantine and observation is just negligent.

Breeding those animals, especially at this time, is just irresponsible and a terrible decision. If you learn first, make informed decisions and carefully select your pairs, other breeders and owners will respect you, will approve of your decisions and treat you well. If you shove together animals with no thought, no plan, no safety precautions and produce low quality offspring at the risk of your adults' health, you'll find that the welcome is not so positive. You only get one reputation, it's really a very important thing in the relatively small community of serious herpetoculturalists and herpetologists. Don't !@#$ it up by rushing things. Doing it right is more important than doing it fast.

 

[kevinb]

thanks for the honesty I appreciate it. I will seperate them and watch them individually and get the feel for things first. I have to get some flexwatt, thermostat, and thermometer for the tubs which I can get in a week or two. Then seperate them.

Kevin Bullis

 

[RampantReptiles]

All it takes is one time with the male and you have babies... it may already be too late.

I would run out to the store and get the stuff to make a simplistic set up to at least separate out the male... your looking at like $30-40
$10 for a 10 gallon
$20 for under tank heater
$1-2 for tupperware that you can use as a moist hide... cut a hole for gecko access
$1 or less for water dish... I use the little critter bowls from walmart
Free worm dish... I use peanut butter jar tops
Free empty paper towel roll as additional hide or cool side hide

 

[kevinb]

I have them seperated. Its a constant 80° in my room during the day and low 70s during the night So I don't really need heat mats right now. I have the two females in simplistic tub enclosures and the male in a 20l. I will be picking up some more stuff to finalize my tubs this weekend....hopefully I Will have the cash since I just found an orphan kitten that I have to take to the vets to get checked out. I should have extra though.

Kevin Bullis

 

[SamsonizeMe]

Your geckos will need a 90-95*F hot side of the tank (measured on the floor, not in the air) for belly heat to aid in digestion. 80 is not enough. Please get a UTH(s) as is necessary.

 

[TranceZ]

90-95 for warm side and 80ish for cool side.

 

[kevinb]

Okay I will get some heat pads.

Kevin Bullis