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My leo is around 2 years old and I've had him for about a month. I bought him off a breeder who was selling off his stock as he was moving out of the country. He had been kept in a rack system his whole life, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that his enclosure was no bigger than a shoe box.
TANK INFO
Size: 10 gal, 2 hides
Substrate: Paper towels
Lighting: None
Heating: Thermostat controlled UTH and always on ceramic heater above hot side (if my room gets too warm though I'll turn it off for a few hours)
Temps: 90-93 hot side / 80-83 cool side
Now, I realize my tank size could be the issue, however I feel like it is a huge upgrade to the conditions he was living in previously, and he NEVER leaves his hides. The only time he is out is when he's switching sides, and he won't even eat out in the open. For the first 2 weeks of my owning him, he never ate because his bowl was out in the open. I tried every feeder insect to no avail, and one day out of desperation I tossed a superworm into his hot hide while he was in it and instantly heard shuffling and crunching. Even still, he won't eat more than two superworms a night (which I partially attribute to them not being in a bowl and scurrying off under a fold of the paper towel), so that worries me as well. He won't eat any other feeder insect that I've tried that way either. His tail is fairly plump still, and only went down slightly during his initial 2 week fast.
ANYWAY, I never kept a lid on my tank because I just assumed that due to his timidness he'd never try anything. But last week he proved me wrong. After a major tear down of my room I found him hiding under the space of my very heavy book case...which is right beside his cage. Catching him was easy because he never really moved or tried to run away.
Then today, I noticed he was gone again (I found a tunnel behind his girly pin up poster on the wall..haha no I just didn't replace the lid properly the night before). I immediately checked behind the book case and lo and behold, there he was.
So because he hides within the small space under the book case and doesn't explore or wander around, I don't think it's because he desires more room in his cage. I think he's looking for the dark and tight spaced security he's been living in his whole life. And I really don't want to move him into a box (even if it's bigger). I understand that it'll probably take months, if not years for him to get used to being in a glass tank.
Since this is my first leo I'm not used to their behaviours, so I was hoping someone here might catch something that I'm overlooking, or offer up some insight or advice.
Anything would be appreciated, thanks for reading!!
PS: Here's a picture of him in his box of shame after I caught him last week, is that a decent size for his tail despite his only eating 1-2 superworms a night? As far as I can tell its size hasn't changed much over the time I've had him.

My leo is around 2 years old and I've had him for about a month. I bought him off a breeder who was selling off his stock as he was moving out of the country. He had been kept in a rack system his whole life, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that his enclosure was no bigger than a shoe box.
TANK INFO
Size: 10 gal, 2 hides
Substrate: Paper towels
Lighting: None
Heating: Thermostat controlled UTH and always on ceramic heater above hot side (if my room gets too warm though I'll turn it off for a few hours)
Temps: 90-93 hot side / 80-83 cool side
Now, I realize my tank size could be the issue, however I feel like it is a huge upgrade to the conditions he was living in previously, and he NEVER leaves his hides. The only time he is out is when he's switching sides, and he won't even eat out in the open. For the first 2 weeks of my owning him, he never ate because his bowl was out in the open. I tried every feeder insect to no avail, and one day out of desperation I tossed a superworm into his hot hide while he was in it and instantly heard shuffling and crunching. Even still, he won't eat more than two superworms a night (which I partially attribute to them not being in a bowl and scurrying off under a fold of the paper towel), so that worries me as well. He won't eat any other feeder insect that I've tried that way either. His tail is fairly plump still, and only went down slightly during his initial 2 week fast.
ANYWAY, I never kept a lid on my tank because I just assumed that due to his timidness he'd never try anything. But last week he proved me wrong. After a major tear down of my room I found him hiding under the space of my very heavy book case...which is right beside his cage. Catching him was easy because he never really moved or tried to run away.
Then today, I noticed he was gone again (I found a tunnel behind his girly pin up poster on the wall..haha no I just didn't replace the lid properly the night before). I immediately checked behind the book case and lo and behold, there he was.
So because he hides within the small space under the book case and doesn't explore or wander around, I don't think it's because he desires more room in his cage. I think he's looking for the dark and tight spaced security he's been living in his whole life. And I really don't want to move him into a box (even if it's bigger). I understand that it'll probably take months, if not years for him to get used to being in a glass tank.
Since this is my first leo I'm not used to their behaviours, so I was hoping someone here might catch something that I'm overlooking, or offer up some insight or advice.
Anything would be appreciated, thanks for reading!!
PS: Here's a picture of him in his box of shame after I caught him last week, is that a decent size for his tail despite his only eating 1-2 superworms a night? As far as I can tell its size hasn't changed much over the time I've had him.
