New Eye Morph ***It's true*** The clear pupil is genetic!

[millerbobby1984]

Today I brought my clear eyed leo to a couple experts at the Cleveland Reptile Show and no one has ever seen anything like it.

When the light is right, you can see right into my gecko's eyeball and it's not a health issue! So I contacted the gentleman whom I received the gecko from and found out he had 2 more like that from the same parents, and a baby that has 2 clear eye morphs!!!

This proves it's genetic, and everyone can tell these guys aren't blind.

The genes are from Tremper Albino Females, and the other gentleman who is holding these new morphs mixed the Tremper with a Mack Snow and got this stunning baby in picture 1. This one has both clear eyes!!!

Alot of people have their doubts, but you can only see this morph in person until we get a good photographer. I understand your doubts, but if you could see them one time, you'd be amazed!

What steps do I follow to start establishing this as a new eye morph?

I have two other posts on here showing different pictures of my clear eyed gecko but everyone just demanded better pictures, which I don't believe is possible. It seems as though you can't photograph something "clear" inside an eyesocket. But feel free to look at my other posts and see for yourself.

 

[Dazzling]

I'm confused... it's not your creation. Shouldn't the guy who created it decide when and how he wants to launch the new eye pigmentation?

 

[DrCarrotTail]

Glad its something special and not a health issue. It could still be a one time mutation that occurred from that pairing and not heritable. I would think the first step would be breeding an individual back to its father or mother to see if the trait is passed on. If that's not possible you'd have to breed to another animal and incubate for the opposite sex of your gecko and breed babies back to your gecko, assuming the trait doesn't show up in the first generation.

I can see Dazzling's point, but IMO if the original breeder wanted priority on testing and launching a new trait he should have held all offspring back and done the testing himself. Personally, I wouldn't have sold any of them without knowing they were healthy and before having a vet look at them and determine the eye was not a defect first.

 

[OnlineGeckos]

Interesting information. Agreed with both posters above. Without test breeding you can't really classify it as anything. It'll take some time and several generations to test prove it. You'll have to find out if it's recessive, co-dom, etc..

 

[millerbobby1984]

All 3 of you are right! And thanks for the great advice. I don't want credit for the "creation" of this morph, as that belongs to a really cool guy here in Ohio. But on Father's day we spoke about it, and he told me I should get credit for discovering it, but I really just am lucky to be involved in such a cool event.
However, I really need to know the specifics on getting this released to the community. Maybe this could be profitable... IDK, I don't want any money for anything, I just want to name it BTW, the girl in the pictures laid two eggs today!

 

[millerbobby1984]

and btw, the baby is a 3rd generation of this morph, so we have some genetic testing done already

 

[LepoInc]

If I were you, I'd order Ron Trempers book and read the chapters on creating a morph, novelty, etc. He explains it really well

 

[millerbobby1984]

I hereby withdraw any statement about this morph I previously called "clear eyes" and I announce this statement: I am not an expert in this field and now I have an expert involved. If this morph did exist, I'd probably call it "Bobby eyes",after my son, or "ohio eyes". I would not just call it "clear eyes". But I am pulling back from all gecko boards and this discussion until genetics are proven........ Will the Leo world be shaken? I guess noone will know for another year, or maybe we should wait 2 years?