New leopard gecko pairing question...

[maggiee22195]

Hey, I was reading my new book and I noticed that the tremper albino part of my tremper jungle albino is recessive. But The jungle part is polygenic.

If I bred a tremper jungle albino to a snow. Or a mack snow, would I be on my way to getting snow glows if I kept breeding?

What is the difference between a snow and a mack snow?
And does my gecko being a jungle albino effect what morphs he can be paired with, because of the jungle being thrown in there?

 

[RAlbrecht]

If you breed a Tremper Albino to a Snow, you will get Tremper Albino Snows...if its a jungle pattern some will have a jungle pattern and some will have a banded pattern...

There is multiple types of snows, Mack being the most common...

Snowglows - are a combination of a Snow, Albino, and SHTCT

I think in all honesty if you are choosing to breed, stick with the basics first, and get a feel for what you are doing before jumping into Combo Morphs.... Keep it simple

 

[Jordan]

Hey, I was reading my new book and I noticed that the tremper albino part of my tremper jungle albino is recessive. But The jungle part is polygenic.

If I bred a tremper jungle albino to a snow. Or a mack snow, would I be on my way to getting snow glows if I kept breeding?

What is the difference between a snow and a mack snow?
And does my gecko being a jungle albino effect what morphs he can be paired with, because of the jungle being thrown in there?

Breeding the jungler tremper to a snow, would make 50% snows het for tremper and 50% normals het for tremper. However with the jungle thrown in your hatchlings will have varying amounts of jungle-y pattern.

no difference between mack snow and a snow, some poeple just call it a snow for short. though there are different types of snows, so if you buy a gecko thats just labelled 'snow', its best to check what type of snow, though chances are it will be a mack snow.

I suppose youll be a part of the way towards snowglows, however youll need an SHTCT to make snow glows. but with the geckos you ave it would be a long path, but possible.

and no the jungle doesnt make a difference to what you can pair it with, though it does mean your hatchlings will have varying patterns. But thats sorta cool, not knowing hoiw theyre going to look.
you will obviously gbet best results if paired to another gecko with a jungle pattern.

 

[Jordan]

If you breed a Tremper Albino to a Snow, you will get Tremper Albino Snows...

Maggie, it would be Mack Snows het Tremper. Not tremper snows. Dont let this confuse you.

Sorry for going against what you said RAlbrecht, but im sure you realize your mistake

 

[maggiee22195]

He has absolutely no dark pigment on him though. Does that mean like if I paired him with a tangerine the babies would have dark pigment on their bodies?
(The adult tangerine has no dark pigment on its body, same as my tremper jungle.)

 

[Reborn]

Albinos(all 3 strains) Have 0 dark pigmants which is what makes them albino, ya know? Like with mammals there white with red eyes instead of the normal color. No albino has any dark pigmant. once in a while you get a "chocolate albino" but its a light brown thats not dark. If your tang. has now dark pigmants that means its probably a super hypo tang.

Nope the babies most likely wouldnt have any unless there normals which is what you'd get. Some normals som tangerines(im assuming its a super hypo tang. With the normals they would since there not albino they just carry the albino genes in them(which is what het. means)

I second what jordan said about 50% normal and 50% snow.

Most pet stores just sell snows aka mack snows. if ya see a super snow be sure to snatch it up fast. its off for them to get anything fancy.

 

[RAlbrecht]

Yeah Jordan thats my mistake... I've been reading through posts all day at work lately and answering stuff when I can lol... Its been a long day already

 

[maggiee22195]

Albinos(all 3 strains) Have 0 dark pigmants which is what makes them albino, ya know? Like with mammals there white with red eyes instead of the normal color. No albino has any dark pigmant. once in a while you get a "chocolate albino" but its a light brown thats not dark. If your tang. has now dark pigmants that means its probably a super hypo tang.

Nope the babies most likely wouldnt have any unless there normals which is what you'd get. Some normals som tangerines(im assuming its a super hypo tang. With the normals they would since there not albino they just carry the albino genes in them(which is what het. means)

I second what jordan said about 50% normal and 50% snow.

Most pet stores just sell snows aka mack snows. if ya see a super snow be sure to snatch it up fast. its off for them to get anything fancy.

Ok.... so maybe I wont breed him. I am wanting bright geckos so if I cant breed him to a tangerine and get albino tangerines then im just going to keep him as a pet. I think I am going to get a sunglow and breed it to a tangerine. Or a tangerine to a tangerine. Or maybe a. aptor to a raptor. What other morphs do you guys think would make cool babies?

This is the pic of the female I want to breed him to.

 

[maggiee22195]

Go to my photo album to see my male tremper jungle. Tell me what u think.

 

[Reborn]

It's a tiny pic but he looks like any other tremper. If you want bright geckos maybe look at getting a SHTCT or a SHTCTB. There bright with no black, easy to find and just all around cute Plus you wont end up with babies het for tremper. He's a nice gecko but not all geckos are breeder quality remember. I'd never breed a pet store gecko since its histories unknown. It could be het all kinds of stuff or have something genetic wrong which would pass to the babies. No, im not bashing all the pet store geckos, they make great pets and if someone feels they wanna breed them thats up to them. Trempers come in tangerine coloring now with lots of lavander and such so if thats what your looking for just watch and look around. Something will turn up. Took me 3 months but i found gargoyle gecko babies for a great price that were striped(what i wanted).

if you breed him to your tang. you'll get tang. HET albino. Now will be albino. you'd have to breed the babies to eachother to get tangerine albinos. Get it? Albinos is a resessive trait that both parents need for babies to come out that way. So unless your tang. is het. tremper then there is 0 chance of any babies being albino.

 

[Reborn]

sorry didnt look at the female pic. thats a SHTCTB(well possibly carrot tail if it gets a bit more) still the same out come.

shes on the thinner side too so it'd be a bit before you could breed her safely.

 

[maggiee22195]

sorry didnt look at the female pic. thats a SHTCTB(well possibly carrot tail if it gets a bit more) still the same out come.

shes on the thinner side too so it'd be a bit before you could breed her safely.

Thanks! It wont be for another month or two until she breeds, so im not concerned about weight just yet because I don't even have her!

He isn't a petstore gecko either. I got him from a breeder at a reptile expo last year.

If I breed a tang to a tang I will get all tang babies... correct?

And If I breed a tangelo to an a.p.t.or what would I get?

And if I breed a raptor to a het raptor what would the babies be? percentage wise...

 

[Reborn]

Yeah you'd get tang. from a tang on tang. that tangine girl tho is a SHTCTB. So calling her a tangrine is to basic. I mean a normal can have tang. coloring now a day. She's a nice orange color.

Tangelo with APTOR would get you trempers with lots of tangerine coloring, more tangelos basically since tangelo is a tremper tangerine and a APTOR is a tremper patternless. The babies would all be het patternless i beleive.

Anything het for something the chances are always less. A RAPTOR to a say tangerine HET Raptor the chances would be about 25% getting a RAPTOR baby which probably would have some tangerine influnce.

 

[Jordan]

A tangelo would cost a hell of a lot, because its Ron Trempers line of tangerine Albinos, id recommend going for a Sunglow and breeding it with your Tremper Albino. Then youd get some nice orangey, hypo-y trempers from it.
Or a super snow albino, cuz then breeding that to your tremper youd get mack snow albinos.
but its up to you.

 

[mrlloyd]

what to pair with my blizzard female?

sorry makin my own post... im a nerd

 

[Jordan]

A blizzard... is what to pair to a blizzard. or you know anything else... its up to you, depends what you want to make.

 

[maggiee22195]

sorry makin my own post... im a nerd

Blizzard to tremper albino or bell albino would make blazing blizzards. And I think if you bred a blazing blizzard to a raptor you could get like 25% diablo blancos.

 

[Jordan]

Blizzard to tremper albino or bell albino would make blazing blizzards. And I think if you bred a blazing blizzard to a raptor you could get like 25% diablo blancos.

Nah blizzard to tremper, would make normals het for tremper and blizzard.
And a blazing blizzard to a raptor would make trempers het for blizzard and eclipse.
i wish DB's were that easy lol.

to make a blazing blizzard, youd haver to breed
Blizzard X Albino = Normals het blizzard het albino

then breed the normals het blizzard and albino back to each other and then theres a small 6% chance of Blazing Blizzards.


To make DB's from blazing blizzards youd have to go:
BB x RAPTOR = Tremper het Blizzard het Eclipse

then breed them back to each other for 6% chance of DB's.

There are quicker routes but these paths are just from othe parings you mentioned.