next years selective breedrs

[iceman]

here are some of my geckos i have selected to breed next year...

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

I'm sorry to say but those look like they are in no conditon to be breeding!

 

[iceman]

why is that they a eating finean their setups are are good

i have selected to breed next year

 

[iceman]

if its the lighting i can take pics of them in their tanks

 

[KellyTCS]

Yeah, do that. And try to get shots that show their whole body clearly. To me it looks like they are quite thin.

 

[iceman]

AF setup...

adult female setup...

feamle juvienile setup...

My breeding tank ( my mles viv. isso big i had to split it up into two pics...

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

why is that they a eating finean their setups are are good

Even with the poor quility of the 1st pictures its clear those leos are no where near ideal breeding weight. It does seem the cage seems to cover all thats needed what is the heated area temp, how long have you had them, how much are they eatting what are they being fed, what supplements are they offered?

 

[iceman]

on the warm side of the breeder tank it is 88F ad cool side is 79... on the warm side of my juvies tank is 85F on the cool side is 76... on thewarm side of my adult females tank is 87F..cool side..78.4 according to my tempgun

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

88 is the lowest temp you'd want to set for heated area even for hatchlings, I myself would go no lower than 90 yet prefer to have it 92-94. The warmer they are the more active they are, the more vibrant the colors are (doesn't make much of the difference for just normals I suppose), the faster they digest thier food and my thought on this for young growing leos will be able to have a larger food intake and faster growth. I have heard of many keepers having thier leos kept at 96-98 degrees and have done it myself in the past with the leos spending just as much time in these heated area as before. That being said I have no issues keeping mine at 92-94 and feel its not at all too hot for them. Again I do feel yours are not of breeding weight, what do they weigh and whats thier age?

 

[iceman]

i dont know what hey weigh i livein WV there are not that many vets that will take repiles around here an i still dont know what im doing wrong the place where i gt mine told me to feed each one like 5 every other day the juvienile is 6 months the male is 2 yrs ad the female is 2 1/2 years

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

Here is and example of one of my thinest more lanky leos, a giant infact which are commonly more lanky looking than normals. He's 10.75'' and 103 grams while his father is 10.5'' and 125 grams. As you can see his still has nice firm tail with nice fat reserve and a nice stocky looking body.

A couple young bells (less than 10 months old) for more examples, as you can see much more weight on them than yours.

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

i dont know what hey weigh i livein WV there are not that many vets that will take repiles around here an i still dont know what im doing wrong the place where i gt mine told me to feed each one like 5 every other day the juvienile is 6 months the male is 2 yrs ad the female is 2 1/2 years

5 mealworms a day? Many leo keepers will allow thier animals to eat as much as they please some oof mine eat upward of 2 dozen mealworms every eveing. Just from what I have seem both your food and heating is suboptimal, maybe also you may have a parasite issue. Fecal samples are easy enough for any vet to do and recommand to be performed on a regular basis.

 

[iceman]

no crix

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

I see, I'd still say see increase they intake. Try maybe 1 dozen crix in thier cage if they are able to consume nearly all expect 1-2 everynight keep that amount if they eat all of them everynight increase it to where they are all but 1-3 gone in the morning. As well as try increasing thier temp to say 92.

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

Have you been supplementing the crix with calcium, vitamine D3, multivitamine and mineral supplements?

 

[iceman]

i have putting the droplets in the water and dusting once a week

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

i have putting the droplets in the water and dusting once a week

Droplets? Hmm you may want to look into that, I beleive if that was a good sorce I'd heard from many by now. Seems to me you may want to get hot and heavy into reading about proper leopard gecko husbandry and not just short website caresheets. I'd recommand you pick up some of the better books available. I must say it doesn't seem your ready to become a leo breeder as your leos must seek better attention and you gain knowledge of proper keeping before you think about breeding, egg incubation, and hatchling rearing.
Powdered calcium should be offered with every feeding and Vit D3 and multisupplements and minerals offered a few times a month the frequency depenant of the leos age and amount of growth, if its a breeding female, or if its an adult which is non-breeding. Different brands have different amounts of various items so once you've decided which ones available to you are good make sure you find out what other recommand as far as how often to use them.
Xavier

 

[BalloonzForU]

I agree with Xavier, those leos don't look to be in any condition to breed. Even if they do put on weight and get to where they should be. They could have damage internally, from lack of proper feeding and supplements, that would make it hard for the females to produce eggs and/or they may even become egg bound.

 

[iceman]

the droplets bottle says " electrolize suppliment " be exo-terra