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KashMoneyExotics

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I’ve been looking for male leopard geckos and I found one that I really like. A tremper snow Enigma het eclipse. The only thing is that I’m scared, I’ve heard a lot of bad things about the enigma and I kind of don’t want to go through that. The breeder says he shows enigma syndrome very very little and was produced by gecko babies which is a very reputable breeder. Which is tempting to buy it. Any suggestions?
 

Akari_32

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If you don't think you're ready for a gecko with an enigma syndrome, then don't do it. I'm down to syringe feeding my 3 year old dreamsicle. Had I known the issues with enigmas, I wouldn't have bought her. But I love her, despite her flaws :)
 

Kjenkins

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you your support to breed them if they show bad signs of the syndrome. You say the breeder said it shows very lil syndrome tho. I'v also heard it can get worse as they age. The symptoms are brought on by stress normally I believe. So you just need to weigh your options. If you want it get it and be prepared or stay safe and don't get him. Truth is Enigma scares the crap out of me to so your not alone. They do produce beautiful babies tho so I can't blame you for wanting one.:D
 

KashMoneyExotics

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He's a pretty big gecko he's 86 grams and have a nice chunky tail so it doest look like him being able to eat is a problem. Im really torn right now. Theres a breeder thats selling a blue spot eclipse that I want as well. I really can't decide.
 

Akari_32

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Amelia used to weigh close to 90 grams, with a big beefy tail, and hunting crickets on her own, not too long ago. Now she hasn't eaten a feeder in almost two months, is thin, and basically just circles and stresses herself all the time. When ES sets in, it comes on fast. She went from mild stargazing only when stressed to almost constantly stargazing and circling, with no stimuli. It's my understanding, the older they get, the worse ES gets. This is also what I've experienced, as well. If you're serious about getting an enigma, and are ready for what very possibly lies ahead, ask the breeder how his stock has been doing as far as ES goes, and decide from their. I personally don't feel it's right to support enigma breeding. We wouldn't intentionally breed other animals that we know are neurotic and need round the clock care that borderlines on medical care, so why are reptiles any different?
 

DrCarrotTail

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Enigmas are gorgeous animals but their syndrome does have lots of drawbacks. Buying and breeding them you will have to deal with symptoms as they age in to varying degrees in babies. You need to decide what's best for you, it's a personal choice. I choose not to because I don't want to deal with or perpetuate the syndrome but there are a lot of folks trying to work toward symptom-free animals but as I understand it they haven't been entirely successful in eliminating them yet.
 

Neon Aurora

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Engimas are so tempting because they look so unique. I bought one a few years back, but was quickly discouraged as the shipping caused her to start showing pretty bad symptoms. In my opinion, only animals that are completely free of symptoms should be bred. Even than, SE seems to stay hidden in a lot of animals and come out fully when triggered by some stressful event. But everyone is right, it's a choice you'll have to make for yourself.
 

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