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Lottiz

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I got 1.1 enigma double het patternless+Blizzard and 50% poss het bell too. They are siblings. What can I expect from pairing like this?


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Kotsay1414

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Lottiz said:
I got 1.1 enigma double het patternless+Blizzard and 50% poss het bell too. They are siblings. What can I expect from pairing like this?


/Lottiz
Lottiz,

It took some work, but I think I got it...

Enigma poss Triple Het 32%
Enigma Bell poss Double Het 10%
Enigma Patternless poss Double Het 10%
Enigma Blizzard poss Double Het 10%
Enigma Patternless Blizzard poss het Bell 4%
Enigma Bell Blizzard poss het Patternless 4%
Enigma Patternless Bell poss het Blizzard 4%
Enigma Bell Blizzard Patternless 2%
Patternless poss Double Het 4%
Bell poss Double Het 4%
Blizzard poss Double Het 4%
Patternless Bell poss het Blizzard 1%
Patternless Blizzard poss het Bell 1%
Bell Blizzard poss het Patternless 1%
Normal Possible Triple Het 11%

This is based on assuming they are both het for Bell. Enjoy!
 

nwheat

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Here's an easy way to determine the probability of determining the likelihood of any one particular morph.

If you want to know the chances of getting a patternless, or a blizzard (or a Bell if they both turn out to be het Bell) it's 1 in 4 (you can find this using a Punnett square).

If you want to know the chances of getting an enigma (assuming both have one copy of the Enigma gene) it's 3 in 4 (again from a Punnett square).

To find the chances of getting a combo morph, just multiply the individual probabilities:
Patternless blizzard = 1/4 x 1/4 = 1/16
Bell pattnerless blizzard (assuming both are het Bell) = 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 = 1/64
Enigma blizzard = 3/4 x 1/4 = 3/16
Etc.

Usually when there are all sorts of possibilities we are most interested in just a couple of the more exciting possibilities, so this method gives us the answer we're most interested in quickly. This is how I occupy my time while sitting in traffic - lol.

This should be a really fun pairing! You could get a different morph from every egg! :)
 

Lottiz

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Kotsay1414 said:
Lottiz,

It took some work, but I think I got it...

Enigma poss Triple Het 32%
Enigma Bell poss Double Het 10%
Enigma Patternless poss Double Het 10%
Enigma Blizzard poss Double Het 10%
Enigma Patternless Blizzard poss het Bell 4%
Enigma Bell Blizzard poss het Patternless 4%
Enigma Patternless Bell poss het Blizzard 4%
Enigma Bell Blizzard Patternless 2%
Patternless poss Double Het 4%
Bell poss Double Het 4%
Blizzard poss Double Het 4%
Patternless Bell poss het Blizzard 1%
Patternless Blizzard poss het Bell 1%
Bell Blizzard poss het Patternless 1%
Normal Possible Triple Het 11%

This is based on assuming they are both het for Bell. Enjoy!

-Oh, My God!!! I'll call that a great job, thank you so much!
very interesting pairing.... do you know of any patternless bells? And what about Enigma Bell Blizzard Patternless 2%= RE Bell Enigma banana blizz :main_laugh:

/Lottiz

nwheat said:
Here's an easy way to determine the probability of determining the likelihood of any one particular morph.

If you want to know the chances of getting a patternless, or a blizzard (or a Bell if they both turn out to be het Bell) it's 1 in 4 (you can find this using a Punnett square).

If you want to know the chances of getting an enigma (assuming both have one copy of the Enigma gene) it's 3 in 4 (again from a Punnett square).

To find the chances of getting a combo morph, just multiply the individual probabilities:
Patternless blizzard = 1/4 x 1/4 = 1/16
Bell pattnerless blizzard (assuming both are het Bell) = 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 = 1/64
Enigma blizzard = 3/4 x 1/4 = 3/16
Etc.

Usually when there are all sorts of possibilities we are most interested in just a couple of the more exciting possibilities, so this method gives us the answer we're most interested in quickly. This is how I occupy my time while sitting in traffic - lol.

This should be a really fun pairing! You could get a different morph from every egg! :)

-WOW, thanks! Yes, I think I just have to prove this out 2009 ;)

Just a second quest... how the h*ll can I see the difference between patternless and blizzard in this babies :confused: ...

/Lottiz
 
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fallen_angel

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Patternless babies have a distinct look to them when they are hatchlings, much different from any other morph. I don't have any pics for reference, but I'm sure someone else can show a few examples..
 

Lottiz

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I got both normal blizzards, banana blizzards and patternless back home. I also got blazing blizz (tremper) and albino patty (tremper) so I can separate them, but I have never seen those in Bell-form or in enigma-form... What I mean was; how to separate a bell patty to a enigma het bell patty or a bell blizz to a bell banana blizz....Can be very interesting :main_laugh: But when I got them I will know i think ;)
 
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