Patternless Sunglow? has anyone produced this?

[Seraph]

Anyone produced this? couldn't find any info about this combo

 

[bman123]

Shouldn't a sunglow be patternless anyway due to the super hypo? Out of all the sunglow pics I have seen none of them have any body pattern. Maybe I didn't look hard enough lol.

 

[spykerherps]

Sunglows are indeed lacking in pattern but I believe Seraph may be referring to the "murphy's" patternless crossed to a sunglow.

Murphy's patternless albinos have already been created both in tremper and rainwater. bell too I believe but not many. the most common is the RW patternless albino.

BUT the sunglows specifically where not used to create this combo. Originaly just the plane Jane trempers and RW s were used. I think several breeders out there may be using sunglows to cross into mpatternless to try and get some color into them.

Try looking up Embers they are the eventual result of raptor crossed to mpatternless

 

[Seraph]

yeah, i was referring to the murphy patternless....

i have a male patternless tremper albino so i was wondering if i could create a patternless sunglow by breeding my male to a female SHTCT and later getting the female offsprings then breeding back to dad... that should create some Hypo tremper albino(sunglows) and maybe some Hypo patternless tremper albino (patternless sunglows)...

 

[Seraph]

so i used the morph calculator on this

Patternless Tremper Albino X Hypo het Murphy Patternless het Tremper Albino

12.5% Hypo (1 Copy) Tremper Albino Murphy Patternless
12.5% Hypo (1 Copy) Murphy Patternless het Tremper Albino
12.5% Hypo (1 Copy) Tremper Albino het Murphy Patternless
12.5% Hypo (1 Copy) het Tremper Albino het Murphy Patternless
12.5% Murphy Patternless het Tremper Albino
12.5% Tremper Albino het Murphy Patternless
12.5% Normal het Tremper Albino het Murphy Patternless
12.5% Patternless Tremper Albino

12.5% Hypo (1 Copy) Tremper Albino Murphy Patternless - this is the patternless sunglow that i was referring

 

[bman123]

Correct me if I am wrong put isn't a sunglow a super hypo Tremper albino?
A hypo tremper albino has some spotting or other coloration to it lime the blue from the tremper.

So wouldn't you have to breed the hypo tremper albino Murphy patternless babies together in order to get the super hypo tremper albino Murphy patternless that your looking for? Then it would be a true sunglow m patternless leopard gecko.

If I'm wrong please feel free to correct me, I'm a noob still when it comes to genetics.
Even with your first pairing you would only have a 1in8 chance of getting a hypo tremper albino m patternless. Better hope the odds are on your side lol..

 

[Seraph]

1st pairing would just create "hypo het murphy patternless het tremper albino"

and yes, a sunglow is a super hypo tremper albino or hypo tremper albino

 

[Taquiq]

that should create some Hypo tremper albino(sunglows)

Actually a Sunglow is a SHTCT Albino. Not just the Hypo or Super Hypo part. Correct Sunglows are SHTCT's Albinos but many people incorrectly sell Sunglows which are really Hybinos ( Hypo + Albino )

Correct me if I am wrong put isn't a sunglow a super hypo Tremper albino?

A Super Hypo Tremper Albino is a Hybino. In order to be a Sunglow it has to be a SHTCT Albino.

 

[Pedy9970]

Actually a Sunglow is a SHTCT Albino. Not just the Hypo or Super Hypo part. Correct Sunglows are SHTCT's Albinos but many people incorrectly sell Sunglows which are really Hybinos ( Hypo + Albino )



A Super Hypo Tremper Albino is a Hybino. In order to be a Sunglow it has to be a SHTCT Albino.

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