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[Otter_23]

I had gotten 7 leos in a trade in November. The bigger ones weighed 20 grams and 4 weighed between 14-16 grams. I was told they were all together so I kept them in 2 groups initially. After awhile I noticed the smaller ones not thriving so I took them out and put them in shoe boxes with one end over 3 inch flex watt and getting 88-90 outside the hide and 74-76 inside the hide (which is a small tupper wear with sphagnum moss in it, it is big enough for them to fit in it without being cramped). I assumed they were being bullied. Well one has been eating great with no problems. The other 3 refused to eat so I mixed up some mushed waxworms, mealworms, water to and some rep cal. I put the dripper on their noses and they lapped it up pretty good. One of the 3 has lost a lot of weight and is always squinting and tilting it's head. After doing this for a few times I added crickets which it appears that 2 of the 3 are eating. The other one will not eat crickets, waxworms or mealworms. It is in a shoebox tub with the hot end 88-90 and the cool end around 72-74. It has a humid hide, small water bowl (salsa cup size) and dish with rep cal d3 in it (I put the mealies in the this dish). I am running out of ideas with this one and it continues to kind of tilt it's head. I trust the person I traded with and 4 of the 7 have thrived very well. I guess I figured the stopping eating was from bullying but since they have been on their own (about 1 month) the 1 is doing poorly and the other 2 seem to be doing better but I am still watching them. The one is getting skinny and the other 2 seem chunkier in the body but haven't started to put weight in their tails yet. Any ideas would be great. Thanks.

 

[Otter_23]

Here are what the enclosure looks like after they were moved.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

Id have a fecal done to check for parasites and up the high to right at 90 if you can, mine runs 90-92 on the hot side.

Also make sure to have a good day night cycle, 14 hours day and 10 night, mine probably have 16 day and 8 night because of where they are.

 

[Otter_23]

Thanks I will get the heat up. The bigger ones had been a rescues which he had quarantined and were treated and then given fecal exams later which came back good. The smaller ones he had hatched himself and they had size on their tails when I got them. It's a difficult to get them to a vet around here as none of the vets deal with reptiles, but there is one over an hour away that I may be able to plan a trip to I'm just not sure if she is very good.

The problem just seems to be on my end since they came in with good weight. Which is bugging me since I thought I have the set ups right. One thing I did read last night which I have changed immediately is I had rep-cal
d3 in their calcium dish which I have now cleaned out and put reptivite in their dishes.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

You can also try your local high school biology class and local community colleges, Ive had them do fecals for free to aid the sudents in their labs. They get free poo and I get a free fecal, it may not be as 100% as a vet but worth a try.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

PS Change in environment, shipping etc can cause a normal load of non damaging pins to become a problem.