Phoenix worms

Neon Aurora

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I know this has already been said, but many people on this forum think your geckos have parasites. Parasites can come from lots of places, such as commercially bought crickets and worms. I've had parasites come into my collection that way. You're likely going to continue to get the same response to these posts; they need to be screened for parasites because their symptoms fit the bill.

Your husbandry is pretty good and it doesn't seem like you're doing anything to cause them not to eat. They are quite thin and the skinnier one is probably in danger of going beyond the point of no return. No one on here can diagnose your geckos, all we can do is make sure your husbandry is correct and recommend that they see a vet and get tested for parasites.
 
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Kiara1125

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I know this has already been said, but many people on this forum think your geckos have parasites. Parasites can come from lots of places, such as commercially bought crickets and worms. I've had parasites come into my collection that way. You're likely going to continue to get the same response to these posts; they need to be screened for parasites because their symptoms fit the bill.

Your husbandry is pretty good and it doesn't seem like you're doing anything to cause them not to eat. They are quite thin and the skinnier one is probably in danger of going beyond the point of no return. No one on here can diagnose your geckos, all we can do is make sure your husbandry is correct and recommend that they see a vet and get tested for parasites.

I cannot have a parasite test done because I do not have anyone to take me out of town (I just moved and haven't transferred my license yet). The nearest vet is over an hour away who specializes in herps and another place I called is an absolute no-go with how rude and vile they are. The one veterinary clinic that I called that's two hours away from me has a $46 office visit fee, plus they said that they weren't authorized to say the price of the fecal over the phone and that I had to actually bring the animal in. It will be hard for me to save up $50 for an office visit, let alone being able to pay for other expenses. I'm used to the office visit being $25, if the office visit is pricier down here then obviously the fecal will be as well. It's not that I don't have the money to take care of these guys, it's just that I spent the money (therefore the opportunity to take them to the vet) on things that they actually need like the UTH and supplements. It would be useless for me to have spent the money to take them to the vet and then not even having enough money to get them an UTH.
 

Neon Aurora

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First of all, before I make this suggestion, keep in mind I'm not a vet and am not qualified to treat anything. Do your own research about what I'm about to suggest, and make your own decision. This is probably your only option if you can't take them to a vet. If they have parasites and nothing is done about it, they will die.

Alright, well, I'm not sure how other people on this forum feel about this, but I may have a solution for you. If you can't get them tested, you can treat them over the counter. I've done it before, but the animal I was treating was already too far gone. I followed the correct dosage and no negative side-effects appeared. You can buy Panacur(It's sold for horses in a giant tube) online or at any livestock feedstore. You'll need to look at the weight to medicine ratio and calculate very carefully what the correct dosage is. I can help you with that if you need, as I've done it before. If it turns out they don't have parasites, the wormer will not hurt them.

Now, it's not really recommended to try and treat things without at least a vet's guidance... But I think treating them yourself is better than not treating them at all, which is why I'm giving this advice. Keep in mind that I'm not a vet, and it will always be much safer to go through a vet for these things. I've read a lot into it(since I took in an animal with parasites), and Panacur for reptiles is generally considered safe and effective but I'm sure there are risks. You'll have to make your own decision to take the chance of trying to treat an animal without the guidance of someone experienced.
 

Kiara1125

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Arcadia, FL
First of all, before I make this suggestion, keep in mind I'm not a vet and am not qualified to treat anything. Do your own research about what I'm about to suggest, and make your own decision. This is probably your only option if you can't take them to a vet. If they have parasites and nothing is done about it, they will die.

Alright, well, I'm not sure how other people on this forum feel about this, but I may have a solution for you. If you can't get them tested, you can treat them over the counter. I've done it before, but the animal I was treating was already too far gone. I followed the correct dosage and no negative side-effects appeared. You can buy Panacur(It's sold for horses in a giant tube) online or at any livestock feedstore. You'll need to look at the weight to medicine ratio and calculate very carefully what the correct dosage is. I can help you with that if you need, as I've done it before. If it turns out they don't have parasites, the wormer will not hurt them.

Now, it's not really recommended to try and treat things without at least a vet's guidance... But I think treating them yourself is better than not treating them at all, which is why I'm giving this advice. Keep in mind that I'm not a vet, and it will always be much safer to go through a vet for these things. I've read a lot into it(since I took in an animal with parasites), and Panacur for reptiles is generally considered safe and effective but I'm sure there are risks. You'll have to make your own decision to take the chance of trying to treat an animal without the guidance of someone experienced.

Thank you! I'm sorry I didn't see your post earlier, but I had ordered Pancur recently and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I bought a fecal test kit for my leos (to either test myself or send in results) and it comes with 5mL of Pancur. After my gram scale comes in, I can find a correct dosage for my leos. I will probably message you whenever I get their weights or if I get the medicine first and don't have the gram scale yet. Thank you so much, once again. I appreciate that you're willing to give me advice like this instead of yelling at me for not taking my leos to the vet. I truly and greatly appreciate it!
 

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