Phoenix worms?

[JConley]

Does anyone know if these are good for Leo`s? Phoenix Worms

People claim no gut load is necessary and they have some crazy amount of calcium along with other vits. Is this true? The comparison chart for crickets and mealworms, superworms and Phoenix worms is nuts!

 

[rhino43grr]

i haven't used them personally but some people have mentioned that they can't get their leos to eat them. i might give them a try eventually just for something different.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I have used Phoenix worms to get non-eating geckos to eat! (They are VERY wiggly).

 

[mynewturtle]

I use them during breeding seson. I use them for the females after a clutch is laid (only 5-6), and to hatchlings after they get to 8-12 grams (again I'll only feed 5-6). They are loaded with calcium therefore you don't need to dust them(I still do). As Marcia stated they are very wiggly so they are good for non-eaters. One down fall for them though, There small, and expensive so feeding them on a regular basis would get expensive and would be alot to feed one gecko. I have not attempted to breed but I heard they are one of the harder insects to breed.

 

[SteveB]

I just ordered some and intend to start breeding them. I'll report back on my progress and would be happy to supply some to anyone local to me assuming all goes as planned (free of charge). I don't intend to sell any, I know I can use every last one myself

42.1% crude protein
34.8% ether extract (lipids)
7.0% crude fiber
7.9% moisture
1.4% nitrogen free extract (NFE)
14.6% ash
5.0% calcium
1.5% phosphorus

 

[StinaKSU]

so you say.... No maggots...... kthanx...

 

[Ccrashca069]

I been using them for 3 months now. All my leopard geckos are nice and healthy. I stopped feeding them crickets for now. They get Phoenix worms and meal worms.

 

[rubym]

All of mine like them. I am trying to get instructions on how to go about breeding them. All of my Leos seem to like them and noone is loosing weight.

 

[SteveB]

Ruby, they're VERY easy to breed. I need to write up a caresheet one of these days.
Basically the larvae will eat like pigs and when they are ready they instinctively look for a clean place to morph into a fly... and the flies mate and lay eggs in or near food. With optimal temperature the whole process takes less than a month to see results, but it could take up to around six months if the temperature isn't optimal.

More or less... All you need is an escape proof well ventilated container that is kept relatively warm (simply being in your herp room may be enough) with an area that is clean and an area with food... plus some egg cartons or similar laying area... and presto! lots of phoenix worms!