Pictures of the baby boy!

Neill

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Here he is got him from a breeder saying hes a red pastel tell me what you guys think of him
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great sleeping pic
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Lena

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I can tell already this guy has great color potential.

And just as I said on your leo post.. Yep.. Sand is bad for beardies, too! In fact, it's probably worse. Beardies are very "lick-y" and also very clumsy, making the chances of them consuming the sand that much higher.

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Here's an x-ray of a bearded dragon who consumed loose substrate and has impaction.

Remember, reptiles such as beardies and leos are NOT on loose sand in the wild.. So they shouldn't be on it in captivity, either, right?

Tile, newspaper, paper towel, butcher paper.. All great, safe, economical alternatives.
 
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Pepper

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I second that sand is worse for beardies. I've seen far more beardies with impaction problems and tummies full of sand.

I remember when I had my beardie he was a good hunter, but if he was on sand he probably would have gotten a lot in his mouth just because of how much he liked to eat.
 
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Houdini

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What sand is that? I'm only asking because the particles seem very large and irregular-shaped. I made the same mistake when I boudht my first beardie. Fortunately, I had no problems before changing it, but if you really want a natural-looking terrarium, I'd use sand that's finer.
PS: Careful with the sand. Only use high-quality sand as it may stick to the skin of the beardie and requre brushing at each bath to come off.
PPS: I use sand from JBL (www.jbl.de) and I have never had problems.
 

Lena

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What sand is that? I'm only asking because the particles seem very large and irregular-shaped. I made the same mistake when I boudht my first beardie. Fortunately, I had no problems before changing it, but if you really want a natural-looking terrarium, I'd use sand that's finer.
PS: Careful with the sand. Only use high-quality sand as it may stick to the skin of the beardie and requre brushing at each bath to come off.
PPS: I use sand from JBL (www.jbl.de) and I have never had problems.

:main_huh: How is it natural? The ground in central Australia looks like this:
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(Note that it is solid, compact clay.)

Not this:
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Houdini

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Yeah, but the most widely used naturalistic subdtrate with bearded dragons is sand. That's why I call it like that.
I never used tile as is is very heavy and increases the weight of the enclosure by much and "The bearded dragon manual" (from AVSBooks) says sand is best. But you do have the right to be concerned about impaction. In my oppinion, pices of hard wood are better than tile as they are much lighter (of course, with sealant applied).
And, about the subtrates, take a look at this:
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/104309_bearded-dragon-substrate.htm
What do you think? Is cocoa fiber good for bearded dragons as I thought it was for tropical reptiles?:main_huh:
 

Lena

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Those books are often extremely out-dated.

I don't think any sort of particle substrate is good for a bearded dragon. It's not worth the risk and it's not what they're adapted for naturally. :no: Not only that, but it can get VERY unsanitary! Small bits of fecal matter are easy to miss and before you know it, you've got the perfect place for bacteria to flourish!

Tile doesn't have to be heavy as long as you don't grout it in. Other great alternatives include butcher paper, newspaper, paper towel, and repticarpet (though I bet it's a pain to clean)!

Oh, and btw.. People on expert village rarely seem to know what they're talking about. Shredded newspaper? Give me a break.
 
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LizMarie

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Those books are often extremely out-dated.

I don't think any sort of particle substrate is good for a bearded dragon. It's not worth the risk and it's not what they're adapted for naturally. :no: Not only that, but it can get VERY unsanitary! Small bits of fecal matter are easy to miss and before you know it, you've got the perfect place for bacteria to flourish!

Tile doesn't have to be heavy as long as you don't grout it in. Other great alternatives include butcher paper, newspaper, paper towel, and repticarpet (though I bet it's a pain to clean)!

Oh, and btw.. People on expert village rarely seem to know what they're talking about. Shredded newspaper? Give me a break.

I agree.. Theo don't trust everything you read and see even if it comes from what was once the most credible source .. And when you see an Expert Village link just close the window, lol. Those videos make me cringe because nothing ever seems right.
 

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