Please - what are those geckos?

[Doctor Gecko]

Dear friends, both these two geckos were sold to me as being albino mack snows (supposely trempers).
The problem is that they are getting older and it really doesn't seem to be the same morph.
Please help me to find out what they are.

Male (body and eyes)

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Female (body)

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Thanks

 

[Taquiq]

It's really hard to tell if they are Mack Albinos or Albinos without hatchling pictures. The eye pic is hard to see. Is the female going into shed? The female kind of looks like a Bell but we need a better eye pic to be sure. As for the male, I would say Tremper. Do you know if they are siblings?

 

[Doctor Gecko]

Thanks for your reply Taquiq.
The geckos are not siblings, they came from two different sellers and were imported from US, so, unfortunately, I guess I won't be able to track then down and I don't have baby pictures (they came smaller than they are now, but not babies).
I'll take better pictures tomorrow and post it here.
And by the way, can you give me some advise on how to securely identify the different albino morphs? I mean, how can I surely tell that a gecko is a tremper, a bell or a las vegas?
Thanks

 

[Taquiq]

Trempers have silver eyes but can have some red veins in them. Bells have light pink eyes and tend to be more lavender in color. Rainwaters are the lightest color out of the three and usually have dark eyes.

 

[Jordan]

to me, tbh they both look like trempers, and probably mack trempers if the breeder told you they were mack.
breed them together and see if you get trempers. if not youve just mixed up two abino strains so hatchlings will need culled or kept. and dont breed them again.

 

[Roberto]

I have a question about this morph.
It´s too hard to me to identify what differentiates a common tremper of a Mack Snow Tremper. What kind of visible markings are visible on a mack snow albino?

 

[Jordan]

I have a question about this morph.
It´s too hard to me to identify what differentiates a common tremper of a Mack Snow Tremper. What kind of visible markings are visible on a mack snow albino?

Mack snow albino's are generally lighter in clour but ot always.
There isnt always a visual difference, just a genetic difference.
A mack snow tremper obviously carries mack snow and so has the potential to make super snows, a normal tremper.. obviously doesnt.

 

[Doctor Gecko]

Dear friends, here we go. I hope you have a better view now.

Male:

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Female

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And what could be this yellow dot on her back?

Thanks again.

 

[prettyinpink]

"were sold to me as being albino mack snows (supposely trempers)"

Look like trempers to me...why do you think they're not?

 

[Jordan]

look like trempers...
and their clours are quite light so im gonna assme the breeder was right in saying they are mack trempers.
why the doubt?

 

[Doctor Gecko]

Well, lets say I'm not a morph expert...that's the reason of my doubt. And they look like quite different so I thought they might not be the the same morph.
Thanks for your help.

 

[Taquiq]

With the new eye pics I agree, both are Mack Trempers. Breeders should know exactly what morph they are selling you.

 

[Doctor Gecko]

That's the problem Taquiq...I didn't buy those geckos from a breeder, but from an international seller, and unfortunatelly, they are wrong (intentionally or not) some times and I did not want to mix morphs.
Thanks

 

[prettyinpink]

Well they were right this time with the morphs

 

[Doctor Gecko]

Yep, thei were...

 

[sausage]

they are defo mack tremper albinos. but the one with the do could be showing some bell prehaps!?

 

[Taquiq]

they are defo mack tremper albinos. but the one with the do could be showing some bell prehaps!?

That would be highly unlikely because

1. It is never a good idea to cross Albino strains
2. They are both recessive morphs so it would take a lot of breeding to get them in the phenotypes