Precautionary deworming?

[Dinosaur!]

hi all! Long time, no new threads. Either way, here's my issue.

Socky, a female super snow tremper of mine, has been battling mouthrot for almost two years. (the antibiotics didnt remove it completely the first two tries unfortunately). I took her in a week ago, and they did a fecal test because she prolapsed and they were concerned about parasites. They also sent me home with antibiotics for the mouthrot (i also bought a vial of it for in the future, just in case). I simply had to bring her back in a week and we would discuss her test results.

So yesterday was the check-in. The mouthrot is still there, so she is on antibiotics for the next two weeks poor baby. But she also came back positive for pinworms, and was given a dose of panacur. Now the vet and I are concerned for my entire collection (of 22 geckos) and i cant afford to get them all tested for parasites unfortunately. The vet sympathized with me and said that I can actually find pancur onlline or at a tack and feed store in order to do very low, precautionary doses for my collection.

I would like some educated insight on this? I found a vial of liquid panacur on a reptile website that comes with precise dosing info and a syringe for $8.00. Would you reccomend the extremely low precautionary doses on all of my geckos that are over 30 grams? I dont feel that I can ethically sell my geckos without doing something like this, but i also can't spend $80 per gecko right now ( no others show any symptoms, weight loss, and only a few of the geckos have ever even had contact with the ill one btw) .

Thank you for your advice (hopefully ) And sorry for not filling out the questionairre, but i dont really feel like that will help answer any questions in this situation

 

[DrCarrotTail]

I treat my leos once every year or two for parasites as a preventative measure. I purchase this dewormer:

Panacur Liquid (Fenbendazole) 10% Dewormer

and tend to give them 3-5 drops on the side of their mouth and they lick it off and look fairly happy about it. I go with drops since measuring out the super small quantity that is the dose they should get is difficult. The small 7.5mL bottle will easily treat 100 leos if you don't waste most of it treating them (which may be possible! haha). I give one dose once a week for three weeks. Definitely while they are not breeding.

Crickets and mealworms carry pinworms and I believe pinworms are way more common than we all think. The adult AFTs I've purchased have been especially infested with them and benefited greatly from being dewormed.

 

[Dinosaur!]

Thank you so much! Breeding season is over, so now seems like a good time for this. Ironically that's the dewormer that I was looking at, and I have already placed my order. I'm also getting a few other things to put together a gecko "first aid kit"

thank you you for the advice again!

 

[Dinosaur!]

So i really like this idea of my "gecko first aid kit" or medical bag, whatever you want to call it So i want some ideas on what to add to what im already getting/have:

- Antibiotics with dosing info and oral syringe
- Panacur with oral syringe
- Feeding syringes made specifically for bug slurries
- Carnivore Care for any rescues that i might take in
- Iodine for treating any minor wounds from breeding, etc.
- Gauze in case of wounds that require bandaging
- Soft gauze bandages for taping down gauze
- Neosporin brand antibiotic cream for minor wounds
- Saline for fluching out eyes
- Tons of assorted oral syringes

Is there anything else you guys suggest adding to this?

 

[DrCarrotTail]

Oral syringes you can never have enough of!!! I use them for a lot of things! A Guitar pick also comes in handy for opening stubborn reptile mouths without causing harm

Personally I don't dose antibiotics without veterinary advice. I know I can buy Baytril over the internet but it is a broad based antibiotic and may do more harm than good if a course of treatment is not carried through or if a dose is not high enough or too high. Also, in my experience administering antibiotics through an injection is much more effective with reptiles. Since I can't get needle tip syringes without a vet I return there when I need them.

I'm also not 100% sure what the shelf life of Baytril or Carnivore care is but it may be short and cause you to reorder frequently to keep it in stock.

I honestly have never put anything on a leopard gecko wound other than clean water and hydrogen peroxide. I have had a couple decent bites and a couple dropped tails but nothing extremely severe. They have all healed up perfectly just with keeping their enclosure clean. Not saying bandages and Neosporin aren't good to have around but I'd use them sparingly. Not allowing a wound to breathe can be worse than leaving it open.

 

[Dinosaur!]

Thank you! I would've never thought of the guitar pick! The carnivore care will actually be in use for a poor little girl that I got a while back and isn't doing to well. Hopefully it will give her the kick start she needs

I heard are that diluted iodine is a great disenfectant for small and minor wounds in reptiles, and I've used neosporin in the past to aid in the healing process

ive only used the bandages once, and that was to make makeshift butterfly bandages to hold a price of torn skin in place while the gecko was healing I used to keep a community tank, and it didn't go very well... I'm mainly keeping it in there so I know where it is if I ever need it, and to treat my own injuries due to the fact that I am very accident prone

thank you for the input! I actually have some sterile syringes with needles, but that's to inject roaches and such with water in order to rehydrate geckos that aren't taking in enough water. I would be much to afraid to inject my geckos! But I would if I had to... The antibiotics will most likely be used up completely by the end of Socky's treatment anyway, just due to the fact that her mouth rot has been running rampant lately and doesn't seem to want to let go thank you again for the input! I should be receiving my shipment of some supplies soon!