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matt s

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OK I would love to get into the breeding but I would like to start with one project and work up from there.I have a very nice patternless male. I was wondering if i bred him with a blizzard could I get banana blizzards? Or would i have to breed patternless with a blazing blizzard to produce banana's. What else could come out of this pair other than BB's?
One other question is would there be a differnce bewtween breeding my patty to a blazing blizzard or a blazing blizzard (tremper albino)?
 
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Well, then end of your post confused me...but if you bred a bliz to a patty, you would get double hets. Then breed them too each other to hopefully get a bannana blizzard. you could also get tremper pattys from a blazing X patty. Hope that helps
 

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So if i crossed my Patternless male with a Blazing Blizzard Tremper I would get Hets then I would have to line breed the babies of the Patternless and Blazing Blizzard tremper to get Banana Blizzards?
 

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matt s said:
OK I would love to get into the breeding but I would like to start with one project and work up from there.I have a very nice patternless male. I was wondering if i bred him with a blizzard could I get banana blizzards? Or would i have to breed patternless with a blazing blizzard to produce banana's. What else could come out of this pair other than BB's?
One other question is would there be a differnce bewtween breeding my patty to a blazing blizzard or a blazing blizzard (tremper albino)?

If you bred your patternless with a blizzard you would get double het as mentioned above. Meaning the babies would look normal but carry the genes for both types of morphs. If you bred the siblings together they could possibly produce:
6.25% WT
12.5% Het. patternless,
6.25% Homozygous patternless,
12.5% Het. blizzard,
25% Het. blizzard, Het. patternless,
12.5% Het. blizzard, Homozygous patternless,
6.25% Homozygous blizzard,
12.5% Homozygous blizzard, Het. patternless,
6.25% Homozygous blizzard, Homozygous patternless

All BB are blizzards that are albino (Tremper or Las Vegas). If you bred your Patty to a BB you would get triple hets. Again you would have to bred the siblings together and here is what you might get:
1.5625% WT
3.125% Het. paternless,
1.5625% Homozygous paternless,
3.125% Het. albino,
6.25% Het. albino, Het. paternless,
3.125% Het. albino, Homozygous paternless,
1.5625% Homozygous albino,
3.125% Homozygous albino, Het. paternless,
1.5625% Homozygous albino, Homozygous paternless,
3.125% Het. Blizzard,
6.25% Het. Blizzard, Het. paternless,
3.125% Het. Blizzard, Homozygous paternless,
6.25% Het. Blizzard, Het. albino,
12.5% Het. Blizzard, Het. albino, Het. paternless,
6.25% Het. Blizzard, Het. albino, Homozygous paternless,
3.125% Het. Blizzard, Homozygous albino,
6.25% Het. Blizzard, Homozygous albino, Het. paternless,
3.125% Het. Blizzard, Homozygous albino, Homozygous paternless,
1.5625% Homozygous Blizzard,
3.125% Homozygous Blizzard, Het. paternless,
1.5625% Homozygous Blizzard, Homozygous paternless,
3.125% Homozygous Blizzard, Het. albino,
6.25% Homozygous Blizzard, Het. albino, Het. paternless,
3.125% Homozygous Blizzard, Het. albino, Homozygous paternless,
1.5625% Homozygous Blizzard, Homozygous albino,
3.125% Homozygous Blizzard, Homozygous albino, Het. paternless,
1.5625% Homozygous Blizzard, Homozygous albino, Homozygous paternless
 
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Gazz

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matt s said:
So what exactly do I need to breed my patternless to get Banana blizzards.

Though i'm convinced there is't really such a morph i just think the one or two that are said to be made where just hi yellow blizzard that happened to be het patternless :main_robin: but we won't go there.It's said that if you breed a.

Blizzard X patternless = 100%-normals het blizzard & pattenless.

Then.

Norm HET blizz & patty X norm HET blizz & patty = Normals,blizzards,patternless all possible het's for the morphs you see.And if luck is with you also banana blizzards ?:main_huh: ?.
 

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I'm not really "in" on the Banana Blizzards. But from what I have heard you need the first scenario that I mentioned above (Blizzard x Patternless).
 
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Assuming we define Banana Blizzard as a leo that displays both Patternless and Blizzard traits, then it's already been explained- cross your patternless to a blizzard to produce double hets and then breed the double hets together and hope to hatch leos with genetic combo you're after.

Assuming that a Banana Blizzard is nothing but a yellow blizzard, then we have to decide if blizzards truly can be line bred for a certain coloration and what range of colors can actually be brought out.

We know we can create a whiter blizzard by introducing other traits (mack snow) into the mix.

Can we deliberately create blizzards that are more yellow? Probably, although we certainly have not seen drastic results to this extent.


Has anyone seen any unusually colorful blizzards from Diablo Blanco crosses?
 
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SteveB

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Speaking of which... if you have money to burn and want to have some fun...

Patternless x Diablo Blanco = awesome idea in my opinion
 

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SteveB said:
Speaking of which... if you have money to burn and want to have some fun...

Patternless x Diablo Blanco = awesome idea in my opinion

And if you have LOADS OF MONEY :greedy: .

Albino eclipse blizzard-(DB) X Albino eclipse patternless-(Ember) = Albino eclipse multi het's :main_thumbsup: . A dream for most of us :D but dream we shall as we only have to wate so amount of years for are dreams to come true ;) .
 
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SteveB

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I must have missed the Ember... I like your idea!

well I already "named" my dream... FABLE... just try and figure out what it stands for ;-)
 
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SteveB

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hahahaha

I think I like those better then what I had in mind ;)
 

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