raptor enigma?

Nahph1

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This little guy hatched today from a sunglow enigma het.eclipse x raptor. Did I hit the jackpot on this one?
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Also I have this one the hatched about 3 weeks ago. Orignally thought to be a s.s. tremper. But he still has no spots or color of any sort, and is unfortunately doing donuts in his tub(enigma circles). He's from a mack snow enigma het.tremper poss.het. eclipse x tremper mack snow poss.het eclipse. Could he be s.s. raptor? Enigma?
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nevinm

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the first one is deff an enigma. untill the we see the eyes we cant be sure

the second is too young to tell. i had a normal SS look like a blizzard with no spots till it was about a month old
 

Nahph1

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The first one has solid red eyes(but I know they can change). I believe the second one is at least an enigma due to its circling. What other possibilities could it be. I will post a new picture in a week or two. thanks.
 
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Paco

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Hard to tell from the pics. I don't see the typical Enigma head pattern in the pic. So The 1st one could be an Enigma but I had raptors that popped out looking like that. What temp was it incubated at. Looks like a really Nice Sunglow or some sort of Jungle/Stripe at least.

Second one I have no Idea.
 

RampantReptiles

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first one looks just like the sunglow enigma that I just bought by its pattern. but if the eyes dont change then itd be a Raptor enigma

second one im not sure.
 

paulnj

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The last one is a SSTA possible het raptor , but could be a SS raptor. You would need to test breed it to find out beyond a "SSTA".

The first is a tremper enigma and if it has eclipse eyes in a few week, you have a nova.
 

Nahph1

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Thanks for the replys everyone. I guess time will tell. So there is no way to tell if my white gecko with red eyes is enigma or s.s.raptor with out test breeding?
 

crotaphytidae

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The only way to be 100% that you have a Super Raptor is that if both parents were homozygous for eclipse and were at least mack snows. Great looking geckos by the way:main_thumbsup:
 

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