Rescued leo health and care questions

static

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About your leo:
- Sex: female
- Age & Weight: I was told 4 years old but can't be certain, and 41 grams
- How long have you owned your leo: 6 days
- Where was he/she obtained (ex. Pet store, breeder, wild caught, friend): abandoned at the pet store I work at

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo: multiple times a day (for medicating)
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now: getting easier to handle
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe: N/A
B) Fecals
- Describe (look any different than normal): urate was wrapped around the stool instead of being separated, otherwise healthy.
- When was the last time he/she went: 3 days ago
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem and how long it has been going on: eye caps (which have since been removed) have rendered her eyes damaged, she now holds her eyes shut 95% of the time, stuck on shed (which has since been removed) around toes has left one toe nail black and one toe red and slightly smaller than it should be, as well as mouth rot. These problems were present when I got her.

Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size: 2 sq feet of floor space
- Type (ex. glass tank): glass tank (exoterra cube shaped enclosure with front opening doors)
- Type of substrate: paper towel, previous owner used calcium sand
- Hides, how many, what kind: 2 rock hides, one on each end of heat gradient
B) Heating
- Heat source: UTH and heat lamp
- Cage temps (hot side, cool side): hot side 87-90F, cool side 80F
- Method of regulating heat source: Rheostat
- What are you using to measure your temps: digital probed thermometer
- Do you have any lights (describe): the heat lamp gives off a dim purple light and the vet recommended a low watt UVB bulb while she's recovering
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females): none
- Describe health, or previous problems: N/A

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What you're feeding (how often, how much): crickets, mealworms are kept in a dish at all times in cage, 1-2 wax worms a day to help her gain weight
- How are you feeding (hand fed, left in dish, ect): hand feeding
B) Supplements (describe how often)
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands): flukers calcium powder with d3, haven't been able to get vitamins yet
- What are you gut loading food with: flukers high calcium cricket food, carrots

Hello, I'm new to this forum. I work at a pet store and someone came in and abandoned a leo with the terrarium and most of the necessary supplies. I did not personally deal with the guy (we are not allowed to take in unwanted pets and I adhere to that policy), but my coworker who owns a gecko took it in thinking he would have another pet, not looking at the condition of the gecko first. After realizing it was in bad shape, he told me he could not afford to take it to the vet, so I have taken it in. The cage stunk like cigarette smoke, she was on calcium sand, and had horrible stuck on shed on two of her feet and across half of her face, as well as thick eye caps. After taking her to the vet she is now being treated with oral antibiotics, antibacterial eye drops and saline eye washes for mouth rot and an ulcerated eye. After the eye caps were removed she ate 10 medium sized crickets and 2 wax worms, and proceeded to pass stool during the night. She has had 3 smaller meals each day since, but has not passed any more stool. I was wondering how concerned I should be about impaction at this point? I would've assumed that the fact that she passed a healthy stool after the calcium sand was removed was a good sign, but could there still be some sand in there causing a block?
Also, because her eyes were pushed back by the eye caps (which wrapped pretty far under the eye lid), how likely do you think it is that she will ever recover her eye sight? I also don't know exactly how long the eye caps were present. The vet didn't give me a very clear answer on that prospect. She will only open her eyes after the saline or medicated drops are put in, and only for a minute or two. The eyes are very dark, almost black, and still look somewhat pushed back, but I can see the faint outline of a pupil. Right now I have to hold crickets by the legs in order for her to be able to get them, as she tends to miss them on the first couple attempts. I'm nervous about the prospect of having to do this for the rest of her life (another 6 to 16 years), but if that's what she needs I'll do it.

Another health concern I have is with her toes, which I removed stuck on shed from. The very tip of one toe (mostly where the nail is) looks either black or very dark red. Is it possible the tip of the toe has died, or is it more likely that there is some dried on blood there, perhaps from me working on the attached shed?

I have other questions regarding cage size, heating and vitamin supplementation, but I'm not sure if I should include them here or in their respective categories on the forum.
 

sausage

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from what i have read your set up seems to be good and the advice the vet has given for care while recovery seems good.
only use a 2% UVB light as any higher can increase the possibility of skin burns. As long as your floor temps are correct, there will be no need for a heat lamp too as it provides nothing to the leos as they absorb heat through their bellies not their top sides.

The eyes should heal eventually but it will most likely take a long time. and until then there is not definite answer as to whether her sight will be 100% after.
you will find that it will still be uncomfortable for her to open her eyes for long periods mainly due to the fact that now the caps are gone day light will be bright compared to not being able to see a lot to any thing while the eyes were crusted over. the eyes will also be sore, so keep up the treatment and be patient.

sounds like your doing a great job! many people would not have gone to the vets.

As for the toes, there is a good chance the ends are black because their dead. however if you say there is some red coluring it could be blood returning to the toes and trying to repair damaged tissue. If they are infact dead they will drop off eventually.

If one healthy stool has already been passed I wouldn't say that theres impaction and fingers crossed another will be passed soon. if theres still nothing in a few days consult your vet regarding the issue.
Keep a close eye on the leo, if you start to see and charismatic signs of impaction such as straining, bloating and lethargy ect go to the vet straight away.
 
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static

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Thank you for your response, the vet will be calling me back tomorrow to talk to me about the constipation. One eye she prefers to open more than the other, so I'm hoping that one will at least regain partial eyesight.
 

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