Snow combine

[Aquila]

I have beautiful Mack Snow het Blazing Blizzard, but for this season i haven't male for her. I have one interest male, with complete lack of yellow pigment, F4 (or F6) from wild parents. His color is not intentional, just accidental. Is this possible something more then 50% Normal, 50% Mack Snow?


PS I have and Bel albino het RAPTOR who i don't know with what can combine.

 

[Srt14292]

Are you sure this bell is het raptor or het radar. (radar is the raptor equivalent in the bell genetics)
Or have the two albino strains been mixed, if so I would not use that gecko for breeding.

 

[Aquila]

Hi is sold for het RAPTOR.

 

[Srt14292]

Ok well as allways I wouldn't suggest breeding that gecko, as you will end up with double hets, and IMO it just shouldn't be done, but thats totally up to you, If you were adamant about breeding it I would suggest just a Raptor, as for your mack het blazing blizz, I would go for either a blazing blizz het eclipse or if you can find a tremper eclipse, your well on your way to making mack raptors, eventually leading onto super raptors, you are aware on how many people breed leos and how many are being pumped into the market, have you got places to store all the hatchlings, and eventually have a market to sell them on.

Either way good luck.

 

[GeckoGal]

I would also strongly advise not breeding the bell het raptor, mixing the albino strains is never a good idea. If you really HAVE to, make sure the you keep the babies in your own collection, or make sure the people purchasing your geckos know. I personaly would never buy a gecko with 2 strains of albino in it.

 

[Aquila]

Mack Snow Bell Sunglow X Enigma possible het Bell
Sunglow 100% het Raptor X Tangerine Albino 100% het Raptor

And the kids is?


PS. I'm searching for good Genetics Calculator (i now only LeoGen)

 

[Taquiq]

Mack Snow Bell Sunglow x Enigma possible het Bell=
1/8 Mack Snow Enigma Albino with Tangerine influence
1/8 Mack Snow Albino with Tangerine influence
1/8 Mack Snow Enigma het Albino with Tangerine influence
1/8 Mack Snow het Albino with Tangerine influence
1/8 Enigma Albino with Tangerine influence
1/8 Enigma het Albino with Tangerine influence
1/8 Albino with Tangerine influence (possibly a Tangerine Albino)
1/8 Normal (possible Tangerine) het Albino

Sunglow het RAPTOR x Tangerine albino het RAPTOR=
1/4 Tangerine Albino
2/4 Tangerine Albino het RAPTOR
1/4Tangerine RAPTOR (the Albino goes with the RAPTOR)

 

[Aquila]

Thanks a lot.

I have and another possibility for upper animals:

Mack Snow Bell X Enigma possible het Bell
Sunglow 100% het Raptor X Sunglow 100% het Raptor

 

[ReptarNDukeNukem]

Mack Snow Bell X Enigma possible het Bell
I'm not great with genetics but all I can tell you half of this pair will be enigma and if the one is HET bell it should be 25% bell
Sunglow 100% het Raptor X Sunglow 100% het Raptor
I believe 25% will be Sunglow Raptor and the rest sunglow het Raptor.

 

[Taquiq]

Thanks a lot.

I have and another possibility for upper animals:

Mack Snow Bell X Enigma possible het Bell
Sunglow 100% het Raptor X Sunglow 100% het Raptor

Mack Snow Bell x Enigma het Bell=
1/8 Mack Snow Bell Enigma
1/8 Mack Snow Bell
1/8 Mack Snow Enigma het Bell
1/8 Mack Snow het Bell
1/8 Bell Enigma
1/8 Enigma het Bell
1/8 Bell
1/8 Normal het Bell

Sunglow het RAPTOR x Sunglow het RAPTOR=
1/4 Sunglow
2/4 Sunglow het RAPTOR
1/4 Sunglow RAPTOR

Hope this helped and let me know if you have any more.

 

[Taquiq]

Mack Snow Bell X Enigma possible het Bell
I'm not great with genetics but all I can tell you half of this pair will be enigma and if the one is HET bell it should be 25% bell
Sunglow 100% het Raptor X Sunglow 100% het Raptor
I believe 25% will be Sunglow Raptor and the rest sunglow het Raptor.

Close but 1/4 will be Normal non het for RAPTOR.
2/4 will be het RAPTOR and 1/4 will be RAPTOR.

 

[Taquiq]

Oh yeah if you skipped to page 2 check the last post of page one for the answers.

 

[Aquila]

Thanks for the help Taquiq.

I have two more females for Sunglow male, clear Tremper and Mack Snow het Blazing Blizzard.

Do You use some sort of calculator or just punnet square and pencil?

Best regards
Ivo

 

[ReptarNDukeNukem]

Well there is a site but it is weird with most multi trait morphs IE Raptor,Diablo Blanco etc.....
I suggest before you breed complex morphs you learn what is dom,co-dom etc...

 

[Taquiq]

Thanks for the help Taquiq.

I have two more females for Sunglow male, clear Tremper and Mack Snow het Blazing Blizzard.

Do You use some sort of calculator or just punnet square and pencil?

Best regards
Ivo

I just use punnet squares and a pencil. It took me a long time to learn but after a while I got it. When you get to the more complex morph breeding the simple dominant and recessive genetics will get you a long way. Line breeding is also confusing. Basically what I do is break it down. This is an example of what I do.
Let's say..

Mack Snow Enigma Albino x Blazing Blizzard.
First if there you have to determine the recessives. In this case the Blazing Blizzard. So you know that Albino is in both of them so it will be 100% Albino. Blizzard is only in one of them so you have to do a mini punnet square like this.
Blizzard= bb, Normal= AA Then all you do is the punnet square.

b b
A.......Ab Ab

A.......Ab Ab

=
100% het Blizzard. So you know that it will be 100% Albino het Blizzard.
Then you move on to the dominant morphs. Which are the Mack Snow first. Since you only see Mack Snow in one of the morphs the other one is Normal. So you do Mack Snow x Normal.
Mack Snow= Am, Normal= AA

A m
A........AA Am

A.......AA Am
=
50% Normal
50% Mack Snow

Then you do the Enigma. And since there is only Enigma in one of them you do Enigma x Normal=
Enigma= Ae
Normal= AA

A e
A.......AA Ae


A........AA Ae
50% Enigma
50% Normal
Then after all the morphs are covered you just multiply fractions. You multiply one at a time from each column. Make sure you don't multiply 2 in each column. Multiply all the possible combinations.