Stupid Question

[roaches42993]

eh.....oh ok

whats the difference beteween a SHCT and a SHTCH ? with mine it appers the SHTCH dont have the white "band" around there head but when i look at pics of ones from hiss n such the SHTCT have white bands :main_huh: whats the difference ?

 

[brandy101010]

A carrot head is an orange head. a carrot tail is an orange tail. I don't think the band on the back of the head matters. it usuually gos away as they get older.

 

[roaches42993]

so a SHTCH would have an orange head and a SHCT would have a yellow head ? what would be possible results with mating a 50% SHCT with a 20% SHTCH and what would be the approx value of the young ?

 

[roaches42993]

oh and i think im correct can the be bred together ?

 

[roaches42993]

srry bout all the questions but last one (for now ) whats the difference beteween a SHTCT and a SHTCTB agian i see no difference

 

[gko reptiles]

S = "super" meaning that there are no black spots on the BODY
H = "hypo" or "hypomelanistic" which means that there are 'less' black spots on the body. (Usually 12 spots or less on the BODY.)
T = "tangerine" meaning it has orange coloration on the BODY
CT = "carrottail" meaning that there is orange coloration from the base of the TAIL towards the tip. (Also, a TRUE carrottail has at least 30% orange coloration on the TAIL.)
CH = "carrothead" meaning that there is orange extending past the earlobes onto the HEAD; there is also a specific pattern that people refer to when they call something a "CH"
B = "baldy" meaning that there are no spots on the HEAD.

Also, referred to a "SHCT" or "SHCH", don't forget the sh"T"ct (or ch). People don't usually refer to leos as super or hypo without the tangerine

Oh, and one more thing... "Tangerine" as well as Super or Hypo or CT or CH or Baldy are all polygenetic traits. This means that a leo cannot be "50% SHTCT" or "20% 'het' for CT". Tangerine traits are line bred based on phenotype, or physical appearance, and are achieved with strict line breeding and chance. I hope this helps!!!!! Good Luck! Do some reading on leo genetics, it's pretty cool stuff!!

 

[gko reptiles]

Oh yes, and all leos can be bred together! Even if it's a (for example) a Mack snow... and... a Raining Red Stripe (RRS). I don't know what you'd get exactly, but it can be done!

 

[Grinning Geckos]

PICTURE TIME!!!! It's my favorite time!!

SH = Super Hypo
Lady Luck is a super hypo - no body spots YELLOW body, no carrot tail, and head spots.

SHCT = Super Hypo Carrot Tail
This is what Mirage is. Notice the lack of spots on the body (super hypo), YELLOW body coloration, carrot tail, and head spots.

HT = Hypo Tang
Found is a hypo tang ... minimal body spots, ORANGE body coloration, no carrot tail, head spots.

The holy grail: SHTCTB = Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail Baldie
Brimstone is a SHTCTB. Notice the following: NO body spots, ORANGE body coloration, carrot tail, NO head spots.

This ends today's lesson! LOL

 

[Brian O]

You left a few out Shanti. I personally don't use the ch tag but I guess I could call these SHTCTCHB's.

These two are outcrosses TUG x HISS.

 

[gko reptiles]

Hey Brian, how about you put a sunglasses warning up next time?!! OWW MY EYES~!!!

 

[Grinning Geckos]

Well geez, I don't have THAT many geckos LOL. I agree, that first one could certainly be called a carrot head. I've never seen much use for that designation, personally.

 

[Brian O]

Not yet at least Shanti. It's amazing how a gecko here and a blizzard there add up . Also the second one is solid orange so it doesn't have the yellow to distinguish the head. Still working on the lighting. I need to just take them outside.

 

[roaches42993]

thx for all the help guys . ill post some pics of the ones that I have later to make sure im identifying them right .

 

[roaches42993]

ok lets see if im right...

This is Ember she is a SHTCTB right ?

This is Flame He would be a SHCT right ?

This is torch I think she is a SHTCH right ?

thanks for all you help can't wait to see what the offspring will turn out to be :main_thumbsup:

 

[gko reptiles]

The third one could techinically be a SHTCTB (because of the spots are only on his/her neck/nose) but I would'nt hall him/her a baldy simply because of the spots on the nose. Other than that they look great! Good Job!

 

[roaches42993]

ok thanks for all your help . Just got an e-mail from the breeder of ember He says her father was from Hiss indirectly from a friend and her mother was from the hypo gecko . I already know the Males Father is from Ray Hine And both parents form the female are from Ray Hine So should have some good bloodlines in the mix :main_thumbsup:

 

[Grinning Geckos]

Personally, I don't find any of them orange enough to be called tangs. That's just me though (Man, can I ever be picky!). I've seen more than a number of people call leos that look just like that tang...so you wouldn't be alone in that designation.

As far as everything else goes, I think you've got the idea! Just one small note....I think you meant SHTCT for that last one, and not SHTCH.

 

[RoseT]

I agree shanti.....

Tangerines should be around this color..."hehe"

 

[Grinning Geckos]

If you find some tangs that color, I want them!!!!!

 

[RoseT]

hey they are around..I have seen dan and kelli have some that look that color!. My tangs are pretty close. Shouldn't a tangerine look like a tangerine lol