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Okay so I will be producing quite a few
i have 4 sunglow females and 1 sunglow male..

i also have 1 giant temper and 5 sht

Now to actually make a sunglow..

obviously sg+sg=sg

but a sunglow is a temper and a sht

when i breed mt ta+sht= i will get sht and some ta...

but its possible to get a sunglow out of it right?
 

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As I understand, your only chance of getting a sunglow in the fist breeding, is that your tremper must be at least a hipo, with tangerine influence, and your SHT must be hetero for tremper.
 

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Not really understanding what mt means. But Tremper x SHT will give you Normal's/High Yellow's with varying degree of Tangerine, all het Tremper. Because Tremper Albino is a recessive trait, you can not get any Trempers without breeding a Tremper to another Tremper or het Tremper. So you can not get Sunglow's out of that pairing. However, if you bred the babies you have a slim chance of producing low quality Sunglow's. You will most likely have to line breed for a year or two before you can get a nice Sunglow out of the pairing.
 

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In that case you would get 50% Tremper with varying degree of Tangerine, and 50% het Tremper with varying degree of Tangerine. I don't think you could get a Sunglow, you would have to do more line breeding.
 

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WHat im confused on is
a sunglow is a Temper crossed with a SHT right?

so im just trying to figure out what all you have to get a sunglow out of the 2..

I will have plenty of sunglows so its not important that i get them.. i just want to understand the concept
 

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You can't just breed a SHT het Tremper to a Tremper and expect to get Sunglows. Their has to be Super Hypo Tangerine with the Tremper, not just varying degrees of Tangerine. A Sunglow is a SHT Tremper, not necessarily a Tremper crossed with a SHT, although that is one way to get it. Are you using the word crossed like breeding those two together? Or just a Tremper and a SHT combined?
 

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so in order to get a sunglow..

you have to breed shtXtemper and get a temper that has tangerine
and breed that with at least the same and line breed to get the colors to be better looking?



i was saying crossed as the two bred together
 
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so in order to get a sunglow..

you have to breed shtXtemper and get a temper that has tangerine
and breed that with at least the same and line breed to get the colors to be better looking?



i was saying crossed as the two bred together

As I know, if you breed SHT x Tremper you will produce only hets for Tremper, among which you should have Hypo Tangerines (100% or 50% of the generation depending on if your SHT is homozygous or not for the hypo gene). If you breed the best hypo tangerines het Tremper among these that you produced, you should have some tangerine hybinos (sunglows) in the generation (not much - less than 20%). You could also breed SHT het T x tangerine Talbino and you should get some sunglows Tremper in the generation (about 25%).
 
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so in order to get a sunglow..

you have to breed shtXtemper and get a temper that has tangerine
and breed that with at least the same and line breed to get the colors to be better looking?



i was saying crossed as the two bred together


Yes, breed the best Tangerine Tremper to the best Tangerine Tremper.
 

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To produce Tangerine Tremper Hypo Albino (Tremper Sunglow) you need not only Tangerine trait (which is polygenetic), but also the Hypo gene, right?
So, if you breed two Tangerine Tremper Albinos you will get nice Tangerine Tremper Albinos but not Tangerine Tremper Hypo Albinos (Tremper Sunglows), or I miss something?
 

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The Hypo gene may crop up if you breed the two Tangerine Trempers because of the original pairing. But yes, the hypo gene needs to be there too.
 

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