Super Raptor

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JayLeo57 said:
Who plans on buying 1?

Other than being T_albino super snow het eclipse-Trait carriers of jungle,striped,reverse striped,patternless striped.There really no point in them as there just white nosed T_albino super snow.You may as well go for a T_albino mack snow RAPTOR as they do look differant.

Here a link to a eclipse super snow now add T_albino to this leo and you have a so called Super RAPTOR.
http://www.geckoforums.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4181&cat=500&ppuser=21

So basically super snow is way more dominant so there only super snow het eclipse.The only reason why Tremper Super RAPTOR look so differant than Albey super snow's on the web site.Is coz Tremper's T_albino super snow het eclipse is incubated high.And Albey super snow are incubated low.Deffo not gonna be worth the price tag.
 
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david13

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jeese, i almost died trieing to read that.. i read it over 3 times and i still don't understand it...(not good with morphs)
 
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the super raptor looks jsut liek the diablo blanco, so why is it pointless ?
 

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Kev132 said:
the super raptor looks just like the diablo blanco, so why is it pointless ?

Only incubated high so called super RAPTOR's bares a resemblance to the DB but there super snow so they do have spot's and striping.But incubate one low you'll see all the spot's and striping.

Icubated high super snow.Also bares a resemblance to the DB.
http://www.thebestgeckos.com/07tremperssfemale.jpg

Icubated low super snow.
http://www.thebestgeckos.com/p1018408-1.jpg

The only thing RAPTOR + super snow gives you is ofcouse the genetics that it can pass on but mack snow RAPTOR gives you that.And carrying the eclipse blood gives the super snow a white wash nose.
 
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ataber

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one of many all white geckos with red eyes its just the genetics that it possesses...for THAT price tag i wont be getting one for a long time but there are plenty of people working on producing mack raptors and super raptors now so i dont see the price staying that high at least from other breeders.
 
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Gazz said:
Only incubated high so called super RAPTOR's bares a resemblance to the DB but there super snow so they do have spot's and striping.But incubate one low you'll see all the spot's and striping.

Icubated high super snow.Also bares a resemblance to the DB.
http://www.thebestgeckos.com/07tremperssfemale.jpg

Icubated low super snow.
http://www.thebestgeckos.com/p1018408-1.jpg

The only thing RAPTOR + super snow gives you is ofcouse the genetics that it can pass on but mack snow RAPTOR gives you that.And carrying the eclipse blood gives the super snow a white wash nose.

They arent super raptors, they are super trempers super raptor still carries the patternless gene !
 

malt_geckos

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well...I think they're really cool. It's a super snow raptor....pretty neat. I would pay for it if I had the money...we like our red eyed white geckos.. we are working on super snow blazing blizzards right now. 1st generation of double hets is in the cooker as we speak and is fertile. woohoo!

And Gazz- those links are super snow albinos..not just plain super snows. Just thought I'd clear it up incase anyone was confused about it.
 

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I will make mine thank you and won't be selling any for $100 until 2012, so get on the waiting list early and send me a deposit.

BTW, Somebody needs to learn to proof read, because a true SS raptor is definately not het eclipse , nor is a mack raptor.
 

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Kev132 said:
They arent super raptors, they are super trempers super raptor still carries the patternless gene !

I know them two are T_albino super snow i was useing them as a example that the really white look wasn't due to the RAPTOR influance it only incubation temp.Super RAPTOR DON'T express patternless stripe coz super snow is dominant over patternless stripe as snown by this eclipse super snow in the link below.If you add T_albino to this leo in the link that is ECLIPSE super snow that would make a super RAPTOR there for they anrn't all that.Bacically so called super RAPTOR's Are T_albino super snow het eclipse as there been no snake eye yet so eclipse is't express either so there het eclipse.

http://www.geckoforums.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4181&cat=500&ppuser=21
 
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Gazz said:
I know them two are T_albino super snow i was useing them as a example that the really white look wasn't due to the RAPTOR influance it only incubation temp.Super RAPTOR DON'T express patternless stripe coz super snow is dominant over patternless stripe as snown by this eclipse super snow in the link below.If you add T_albino to this leo in the link that is ECLIPSE super snow that would make a super RAPTOR there for they anrn't all that.Bacically so called super RAPTOR's Are T_albino super snow het eclipse as there been no snake eye yet so eclipse is't express either so there het eclipse.

http://www.geckoforums.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4181&cat=500&ppuser=21


gazz, i think you need to look into this morph more, quote from below site ;

There is no hint of pattern on the body or striping on the tail whatsoever.

http://www.leopardgecko.com/superraptor.html
 

Gazz

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paulnj said:
I will make mine thank you and won't be selling any for $100 until 2012, so get on the waiting list early and send me a deposit.

BTW, Somebody needs to learn to proof read, because a true SS raptor is definately not het eclipse , nor is a mack raptor.

I just said i won't be first on a list for this leo.They offer het benifit's but other than that.I may well have one but deffo not first in line.Based on the NON T_albino eclipse super snow i've seen and with the T_albino gene they would be Super RAPTOR's they have nothing to offer me.And ofcourse a mack snow RAPTOR is not a het eclipse they are visual albino eclipse.When did i say the a mack snow RAPTOR was a het eclipse.
 

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Kev132 said:
gazz, i think you need to look into this morph more, quote from below site ;

There is no hint of pattern on the body or striping on the tail whatsoever.

http://www.leopardgecko.com/superraptor.html

Seen it it's a high incubated T_albino super snow het eclipse.Here you go see one with out the albino gene :main_thumbsup: .

http://www.geckoforums.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4181&cat=500&ppuser=21

Take the picture of the super RAPTOR#001-male-1 year old.Photoshop your self for brightness & contrast then tell me there no hint of pattern on the body or striping on the tail whatsoever.There T_albino super snow het eclipse.
 
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ataber

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there hasnt been snake eyes b/c super snows have solid eyes and like you've said super snow is dominant...the super raptors express other indicators of the eclipse gene....making them not het eclipse
 

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Kev132 said:
so you are saying ron tremper is advertising an albino super snow as a super snow raptor ? fraid not mate, if you scroll down he shows you an albino super

Yep he's has that much conferdance in the super RAPTOR that he's use two of the darkest T_albino super snow he could find ?? that to make you juge with your eyes :main_thumbsup: .T_albino super snow come lighter than than why use dark one as a comparison.

Here other Abley T_albino super snow's no where near as dark.
http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/tralbss07_4.jpg
http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/tralbss07_6.jpg
http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/tralbss07_9.jpg
http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/tralbss07_10.jpg

Like i said photoshop the year old male super RAPTOR on the web site then tell me it looks really differant :main_thumbsdown: .
 

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