Talbino 100% het db x blazing blizzard?

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cheezit

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does anybody know what the outcome of this cross would be?

would i just get Tremper albino 50% het db or is there a chance i could hatch some diablo blanco?
 

Srt14292

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Tremper Albino HET Blizzard
Tremper Albino HET Blizzard, Eclipse
Tremper Albino Blizzard (Blazing blizz)
Tremper Albino Blizzard (Blazing blizz) HET Eclipse

No way to tell what talbino or blazing blizz is het eclipse, you can only prove it out.

Good luck.
 
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cheezit

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From: http://www.leopardgecko.com/db-faq


Q) Are there really Diablo Blanco genes or it this just a mixture of a BB and raptor? Or a BB that is het for Raptor?

A) Yes, there are unique DB genes. It is no longer a BB or a Raptor. It is not het for BB or het for Raptor. Just as a purebred Pug is no longer a Tibetan Mastiff and Pekinese, which were the breeds that were used in part to form a Pug, so it is with the Diablo Blanco. You can breed pure white, red-eyed, Diablo Blancos together for years and you are not going to get BB or Raptor offspring. Those genes have combined into another unique genetic "breed" of leopard gecko. It's simple genetics.


So no, there is no way that eclipse could be present without db being present
 

Srt14292

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You said that the tremper was 100% het for diablo blanco, to be 100% het for diablo blanco it would need to be het for eclipse and blizzard, therefore thats why the outcomes are what they are.
 
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cheezit

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so are they also het patternless and therefore het for raptor?
 

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The qoute you pulled from that site is very wrong. It's nothing like dog breeds. The way the qoute is worded makes one think that a diablo blanco is one mutation, when in fact, it is three mutations combined, and each one can be singled out. If you bred a Diablo Blanco to an Eclipse het nothing you would get all Eclipses het blizzard and albino, but if you breed a pug to a Tibetan mastiff, you would puppies that look like a combination of both breeds. Breeding dogs is more like breeding Tangs or other line/selectively bred traits, but still very different. It's a horrible comparison.
 

Srt14292

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Very horrible comparison indeed Anthony, and to answer your question cheezit, no it wouldn't be het for patternless, the patternless in raptor is a combination of a stripe and reverse stripe, which effectively cancel eachother out, so the hatchlings would be a mix of stripes, jungles etc, another terrible name because a tremper albino eclipse patternless, is not a raptor it is an ember.

However the one part it did get right was the part at the end where it stated that you could breed 2 diablo blancos together for years and never get raptor or bb ofspring, because 2 complete sets of the genes are there.
 
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Taquiq

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A patternless Stripe is a Reverse Stripe x Reverse Stripe or Reverse Stripe x Stripe. The Eclipse gene in DB also has Jungles, Aberrants, Stripes, Reverse Stripe, and Patternless Stripe that follow it around. These traits will not show up because Eclipse is not in the phenotype so yes, only half of the babies will be het Eclipse and you would have to prove it out. Percentages are just like educated guesses. 50% Can mean more het Eclipse if your lucky and less het Eclipse if your not.
That question is wrong. There is only one morph that is a Diablo Blanco. A RAPTOR Blizzard. So no you can't get just BB's or Just RAPTOR's because the whole line follows it. Therefore, The ending is right.
 

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Diablo Blanco x Diablo Blanco will ONLY yield Diablo Blanco offspring. The "Diablo Blanco" gene does not split up when bred to another Diablo Blanco.

However, if you have a Diablo Blanco x Normal, then you will have Normal 100% het Raptor & Blizzard. The "Diablo Blanco Gene" does split up if paired to Normal.
 

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