Tangerine Question

ndncowgirl22

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Hello everyone!
So I've seen lots of posts about Tangerines, but I still have a few questions. If these are already addressed in another thread, please point me in the right direction. :)
1. What lines of tangerines hold their color longest?
2. If you cross a sunglow with a normal, you get a tangerine that carries bell albino, right?
3. If you cross a tangerine with a normal, do you have a chance of retaining the high orange color in the first generation?

Thanks!
 

Akari_32

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My girl is holding her color fabulously. Couldn't tell you anything on her other than she was marked as Tangerine Lavender.

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Phoenix1115

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1. Bloods hold theirs really well I believe.
2. You'd get a mixture of things will varying degrees of tang and hypo, and all would be het for whatever albino strain the sunglow is
3. Yeah you have a chance but most of the time it's slightly diluted. I have one that was an Emerine x Normal and it has really intense orange
 

pundek144

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1. Bloods hold theirs really well I believe.
2. You'd get a mixture of things will varying degrees of tang and hypo, and all would be het for whatever albino strain the sunglow is
3. Yeah you have a chance but most of the time it's slightly diluted. I have one that was an Emerine x Normal and it has really intense orange

any pics of the emerine x normal? havent heard of any intense hypo x normals in the first gen
 

OnlineGeckos

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I agree bloods do tend to hold their color better, mainly because they're darker in the first place. Tangerines tend to get darker as they age, some fade into more of a pale yellow color. Their colors are known to flare brighter & darker based on their body temperature and mood as well.

Sunglows on the other hand (albino version of super hypo tangerines), hold their colors better mostly due to the lack of black pigments. So as they age, they don't turn as dark as some super hypo tangerines do. But they also do get more yellow later.
 

bohannbj

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1. Temperature plays the biggest role in keeping vibrant colors. If you drop the temperatures then they get darker.
2. I'm pretty sure that sunglows are tramper albino. The rest you are correct on.
3. The most important thing to know is that the tangerine coloration is a polygenic (line-bred) trait. That means crossing them with a lesser orange will typically dilute the color.
 

pundek144

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You can see pics of him in all life stages at this link. He's also a tremper. (mom is a emerine het RAPTOR dad is het Tremper)
personally i dont think tremper or any albino strains should count as an orange result of a normal x tang. I believe op was referring to non-albino polygenic tangs that result from normal x tang crosses het for nothing.
 

LepoInc

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personally i dont think tremper or any albino strains should count as an orange result of a normal x tang. I believe op was referring to non-albino polygenic tangs that result from normal x tang crosses het for nothing.

But that's like saying a sunglow shouldn't count as a tangerine. Like if you had a blood hypo x Sunglow and get some sick blood hypos that colors were contributed by both parents, plus rearing them perfectly till they're 2years old at least, and set in that deep orange, there you go. I believe line breeding goes further than just pair to pair, yes genetics is what plays out the color, proper rearing really determines the true potential.

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pundek144

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But that's like saying a sunglow shouldn't count as a tangerine. Like if you had a blood hypo x Sunglow and get some sick blood hypos that colors were contributed by both parents, plus rearing them perfectly till they're 2years old at least, and set in that deep orange, there you go. I believe line breeding goes further than just pair to pair, yes genetics is what plays out the color, proper rearing really determines the true potential.

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To me a sunglow is a sunglow, and a tangerine is a tangerine. Two separate morphs. Why lump them together?

OP was asking about the amount of tang color influence in the first generation of a tang x normal as the 3rd question.

anyway I think a sunglow is a way better comparison compared to I present to you, the Evolution of Oddball [x]... - Drag Me Head First, Fearless
 

Phoenix1115

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I'm just using him as an example because he could only have gotten his orange color from mom. So it's similar to tang x normal.

Also, the reason that were lumping tang and Sunglow together is because tang is the orange factor in sunglows
 

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