telling a giant from a super giant....

[nevinm]

i know they are pretty much a thing of the past, but i still love them. i want to know how you can tell a giant from a super giant at only 7 months of age and 57g.

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

only way to tell a giant from a super is to see if they surpass the giant weigh and length

 

[nevinm]

thats what i thought. but the great ron tremper has super giants on his page that are 5-6 month old and only 56g. how the heck does he know thats a super. thats where my question in stemming from

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

thats what i thought. but the great ron tremper has super giants on his page that are 5-6 month old and only 56g. how the heck does he know thats a super. thats where my question in stemming from

We'll if my thinking is correct a super giant bred to a super giant should produce only more supers. I have a Super Giant from Ron daugter of Moose and bred her to my male giant had held back a single male. It was interesting to raise him he grew extremely fast the first 5-6 months was 18 grams at just 30 days old and was within 10 grams if I remember correctly of Moose's weight the first few months. The interesitn part is after about 7-8 months of age he suddly pretty much stopped for a period of time as far as growth goes. At that point ge was 92 grams and it wasn't still after past 18 months old he didn't pick up any significant weight. At that point he was just over 100 grams and since them (18 months old) in just the past 5-6 months he's gtten up to 123 grams and still gaining more and 10.9''. So as you can see he wasn't in the so called super giant size at 12 months old but certianlly seems like he might be a super.
Xavier

 

[nevinm]

cool. thanks for all that. but now i just feel compleatly retarted. because i compleatly forgot that a superXsuper=all supers. thanks again.

 

[BluGnat]

i know they are pretty much a thing of the past

Noob-ish question: Why is this? Is there something not good with Giants?

 

[okapi]

No, giants are awsome. But they are not as "new" as some of the other morphs and their genetics are believed to be fully understood.

 

[nevinm]

i ment that as no one really focuses on giants any more. thats all i ment by them being a thing of the past. you dont really noticed too meny giant bells, giant patternless and so on.

 

[Lottiz]

Giants are new in Sweden, Denmark, Norway. We love them here and will take care of the breeding

We just got giant hyglos and giant tremper albinos here...

I got my big dady,Nuclear. Not a giant at all, just a very nice 106 gram male:

But I got a couple of Giant Hyglos 2006. I hope I can get something nice out of them!
Female from A&M's

male from Gekkogalaksen:

 

[LadyGecko]

Those are some nice big beautiful geckos !!
I love the giants and nice big chunky "normals" too !!

Sandy

 

[nevinm]

beautiful geckos. i have a couple giant breeding ideas my self.

 

[MichaelJ]

I love giants too. I realize that we understand the genetics but their size weight length still make them stand apart to me.

I have 90 gram female giant hypo tango - het albino en route and a male giant albino.

 

[Lottiz]

Those are some nice big beautiful geckos !!
I love the giants and nice big chunky "normals" too !!

Sandy

Thank you! Yes, I love Nuclear! I just saw I wrote 106gram...he is 116 gram!

/L

 

[Sandra]

What I'd love to se is a picture comparing a Super giant, a giant and a normal, just to see the difference in size. I've seen lots of pics comparing normals with supers, but I've not seen any comparing the three sizes.

Lottiz, your Hyglos are amazing! And Nuclear is super cute!

 

[bro paul]

i ment that as no one really focuses on giants any more. thats all i ment by them being a thing of the past. you dont really noticed too meny giant bells, giant patternless and so on.

This is an interesting point.
At Daytona this summer, the coolest gecko I saw in my opinion, was a 130 gram normal on Ron Trempers table. I was just very impressed by the size and overall look of the animal. Unfortunately he sold in the first few minutes, but of all the incredible geckos at the show, that one impressed me the most. I went home very excited about my giant projects (admittedly I'd lost some interest in the giant gene) BUT after some thought and conversations I concluded that the giant projects haven't lost popularity because they aren't amazing, but because they take a lot of TIME. Most of us in the leo world are used to very quick progress and when it takes over 18 months for a gecko to begin displaying it's desired trait (as Xavier shared)...well, I don't think most of us want to wait that long. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I know I'm not used to raising a gecko for two years to see if it passes the 120 - 130 gram mark. It requires a different approach to raising and selling offspring. I want to try it this year with a few giant projects. I have a 110 gram Bell male and a 100 gram patternless...along with other Tremper Giants that I'm trying to think more "long term" about. Hope this made sense.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

I do have what I believe is a "super" Giant, that came from a suspected super bred to a Giant. You would just have to see the size of him next to his clutchmate. I can just tell he will be a much larger gecko. Kind of like when you look at a large dog breed as a puppy.:main_laugh: He is the only one I have from these pairings, that has showed his type of size that quickly, and it really stands out.

So yea I do think it`s possible to tell the difference, just not always.

It seems that the Giant gene is not so reliable, as far as having large "heterozygous" Giants, and producing the "super" Giant. Anyone else find this?

Dont get me wrong I like them and all, I still have my first high end female Jungle Giant she is like somewhere over 90 grams. The male geckos may come and go a little (kind of have to replace them each year ), but she is staying with me!

 

[Ghetto Gecko]

my two cents....

these Super Giants, or any morph for that matter is only "A thing of the past" until a new morph pops out and everyone wants to see what will happen when we breed this into that. Thats why sometimes it pays to keep some animals(even though they may have slowed up a bit in popularity) in your collection and look further down the road. You have to have that "vision" as I like to call it. Personally, I think Giant or super Giant enigmas will be rocking, or even a red eye albino super giant enigma. I cant wait. Thanks. Mike Panichi

 

[nevinm]

o beleave me i do have the "vision". lol. i have some of my own plans