Temperature Concerns

TigerJon

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Last Friday we received our new, 3 month-old Leo in the mail. There are a few things concerning me. For a lot of the supplies needed, we placed an online order with a reptile supply house. We applied a medium heat pad to the underside of our 12" x 24" 20-gallon along with cheap adhesive thermos to each back corner. We also bought a 5" light fixture with a 50 watt night viewing bulb (dull purple hue). I was upset with the order we received because one of the hides was broken, the thermometers would not read anywhere close to accurate, and I believe the heat pad was faulty (but not sure about this).

The heat pad was only reading 80F on the adhesive thermos, so I took a cheap thermo we had lying around the hour and laid it flat on the reptile carpet on the hot side of the tank. Again, I was getting a reading of @ 80F. I then went to PS and bought a digital thermo with a probe and a different (ZooMed) pad; same size. The digital read 83F with the probe lying on the carpet. All of these readings were consistent whether or not I used the rheostat on high or with the pad plugged in directly to the wall.


So, having figured the heat pad was faulty, I removed it and placed the new one from PS on. Now, I am getting a reading of 85 - 87; still not hot enough, but better, with the lamp on the warmest reading I have seen in 89.5F. So I am perplexed as to why I cannot get to 90F even with the lamp. The room her terrarium is in is a second-story bedroom, not a cool basement. So, I am perplexed as to what is going wrong.


Also, I don't think she's eaten one mealie since she's arrived (she certainly hasn't taken a dump). We have gut-loaded her worms and dust them w/Repashy's. I thought she had eaten a few until I realized they had left the food bowl and were hiding under the reptile carpet.

With all this said, we don't have any prior experience with reptiles, but she looks healthy. Sleeps a lot during the day and has been waking up around 5:30 each night and becomes pretty active exploring her new home. A few times I have gotten up in the middle of the night to check on her. She will be up and at 'em.

She really likes her moist hide that is getting a good amount of condensation build-up on the walls and lid. I am just guessing the lack of an appetite is due to the change in environment.

Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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mudskipper

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Dial thermometers and hygrometers are inaccurate. Get a digital thermometer/hygrometer. The probe needs to be taped down to the bottom of the tank to read the floor temperature. Also get a digital infrared temperature reader. This is essential. Until you have either of these, it will be extremely difficult to determine if you need more heat (get an additional heat source like a red heat lamp or another heat pad) or less heat (get a thermostat like Hydrofarms to stop the temperature from exceeding the recommended range).

I highly recommend reading every care sheet that you can find in the Articles/Care Sheets tab above this window. If you have time, also read every thread in the first page of each section of the forums. It's amazing how much you will know at the end of all this :)
 

TigerJon

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I have some 12" x 12" ceramic tile at home, should I use this instead? Also, if staying with the carpet, do I tape the probe down to the carpet or the glass under the carpet?

Thanks!
 

TigerJon

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Well, the tiles didn't work; they would need to be shaved down to fit. I have placed the probe under the carpet and now am getting a reading of 96.5F. Also, it appears she downed at least one worm while we were gone today, but she still hasn't crapped.

What kind of store (brick and mortar) sells the Hydrofarm items?
 

pmkent1

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Hey Jon,

Glad to see she's doing ok. Give her a little time on the feeding and she'll pick it up fine. She was the best feeder I had from them all. A lot of times they get a little stingy with feeding after shipping or when moved to a new enclosure.

As far as the heating, I think the pad is doing ok. Its hard to get an accurate reading on carpet (even with a probe, etc) because of the way it disapates. If you really want to get scientific I use a temp gun to get an accurate readking of just about anything. It doesnt rely on heating up the probe to tell the temp. Something similar to this http://www.google.com/products/cata...a=X&ei=XRgrUKPSE5D46QGPxoCYDQ&ved=0CHwQ8wIwAA
 

TigerJon

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Hey Jon,

Glad to see she's doing ok. Give her a little time on the feeding and she'll pick it up fine. She was the best feeder I had from them all. A lot of times they get a little stingy with feeding after shipping or when moved to a new enclosure.

As far as the heating, I think the pad is doing ok. Its hard to get an accurate reading on carpet (even with a probe, etc) because of the way it disapates. If you really want to get scientific I use a temp gun to get an accurate readking of just about anything. It doesnt rely on heating up the probe to tell the temp. Something similar to this http://www.google.com/products/cata...a=X&ei=XRgrUKPSE5D46QGPxoCYDQ&ved=0CHwQ8wIwAA

Hi Paul, I have made sure the probe is actually lying on the carpet and am now getting a reading of a tad over 90F. As for the poster with the question about the vents, the vents in that room are in the ceiling, so that shouldn't be the issue.

I am intrigued about the Hydrofarm thermometer/stat. I am wondering where I can score one.

-Jon
 

TigerJon

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My only question is, why would I need the Hyfrofarm piece if my temp on the hot side is holding steady at the desired temp (now that I am confident the prob is resting on the surface of the carpet)?
 

pmkent1

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My only question is, why would I need the Hyfrofarm piece if my temp on the hot side is holding steady at the desired temp (now that I am confident the prob is resting on the surface of the carpet)?

Techinically you dont, but its a good safegaurd in case something goes wrong with the heat pad. It wont let it overheat if something happens.
 

zeki692

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I have been using a hydrofarm heat pad in my setup since I started (1 week, haha) and its done a great job of keeping the heatpad at +- 1 degree of my set temperature. It's ability to handle 1000w of equipment is pretty cool too if you wanted a huge setup going.
 

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