TSD Mack combo morphs

[TheHiddenGecko]

I know some people are saying that macks aren't temperature sexed, but what happens when you breed them to other morphs such as albinos? Has anyone ever noticed anything?

 

[Jeanne]

I bred my Mack to Bell Albinos and they still weren't temp sexable.

 

[Albey]

Here is a Tremper Albino Super Snow that was incubated at 81 Degrees. It is a Male.:main_angry:

 

[leopardgecko95]

How on earth does the pattern affect the tempature sexing?

 

[Jeanne]

How on earth does the pattern affect the tempature sexing?

It's not the pattern that matters, it's the Genetics

 

[leopardgecko95]

Oh ok I am not good with genetics lol

 

[Stitch]

Does any one know if this problem occurs in the Line Snows? I feel it might because I incubated most of my eggs for female and the two that did hatch they look male but I am not certain yet. Most of my eggs went bad due to mold.

 

[Albey]

Does any one know if this problem occurs in the Line Snows? I feel it might because I incubated most of my eggs for female and the two that did hatch they look male but I am not certain yet. Most of my eggs went bad due to mold.

It has never occurred with my Line Bred Snows. Not even once.

 

[Stitch]

Can you sex leos at 3 months old? I will probably need a magnifying glass won't I?

The gacko has two bumps like males do but I have heard that females will sometimes show bumps as well.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

I was one of the first people to bring up the fact the Macks do not temp sex very well. It is pretty weird!

For the most part, it seems the temps are the opposite. I have had both males and females come from BOTH temps though.:main_laugh:

This has not happened with my other geckos to this extent. I had ONE Tremper turn out female, that was incubated for male, EVER. lol

As far as the Macks goes every gecko is a surprise.

Somehow I did very good this year producing females. I incubated at both temps, a pretty good mix, and ended up with mostly girls.

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

Can you sex leos at 3 months old? I will probably need a magnifying glass won't I?

Leos are sexable at just 10 grams with a loupe, I've sexed leos just 14-16 grams without and visual aid.

 

[TheHiddenGecko]

So it sounds like the trait is dominant over other morphs. Interesting. :thinking:

 

[TheHiddenGecko]

Another question to go with this. Anyone that has incubated at 90 degrees and got females, do they ever seem to be "hot" females?

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

Yep, that was second generation Mack het Alb. X Albino. There is now more of the Tremper blood, than the Mack blood in the crosses, and they still are not very TSD.

Dunno about the "hot" female thing yet w/ the Macks! I just would inc. at below 90 degrees, just in case.

The Tremper Albino I mentioned that came from "male" temps had no problem breeding/producing viable eggs though. I dont think that happens to every female that comes from high temps, it is just more likely.

 

[gothra]

What about males that hatched from lower temps? Will that affect their body size too? Less stouter than other males?

 

[Jeanne]

I have males from low temps, and males and 1 Female from high temps, they are all gaining weight like a normal Leo.

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

Well I didn't do that great of documenenting my eggs from my Mack this year but will next year for sure. Anyways I incubated mostly for males in hopes to produce SSA I also incubated atleast 4-6 eggs in my female setion ad well as soem at 86 degrees. Out of 17 Macks only 1 was a female

 

[Albey]

Another question to go with this. Anyone that has incubated at 90 degrees and got females, do they ever seem to be "hot" females?

I incubate for Males at 88 degrees in the same incubator and at the same temperature I incubate my Ball Python eggs. So far all of them have been Males, at least the ones I can visually sex. It is only at the low temperature that the problem seems to be.

 

[Jeanne]

When the Macks first came out, there was some talk of them being a cross between Eublepharis macularius and another sub species, or something like that. And, the sub species if I remember correctly, can't be temperature sexed.

I think it was in a thread on Fauna, does anybody remember which Gecko it was?

 

[BalloonzForU]

When the Macks first came out, there was some talk of them being a cross between Eublepharis macularius and another sub species, or something like that. And, the sub species if I remember correctly, can't be temperature sexed.

I think it was in a thread on Fauna, does anybody remember which Gecko it was?

I remember reading there was speculation of that too, but don't remember the sub species.