TUG snow genetic

[elphani]

I posted already something about TUG Snow in ''Show off your Leos!''

Yesterday hatched my first TUG snow from the pairing TUG sunglow X TUG snow. He/she is perfectly health and show at the moment a black and white ''hypoish'' pattern. With this little baby I thought now I can believe that TUG-Snow is a dominant trait ....until the sibling hatched this evening . A perfect normal looking Leo!
Does anyone has some experience with TUG-Snows?

I thought the snow male was homo for snow - both parents were snow and I never saw some het. Snows on Craigs page...but if he is homozygous the trait can't be dominant?!

tomorrow I will post a pic of these two babys...

I hope someone has an idea... please write what you got from a TUG-snow pairing!

 

[GeckoRing]

We have hatched 8 from a TUG-Snow pairing. Both parents are snows, out of the 8 hatchlings, only 2 are showing a slight yellowing. They claim it is a dom. trait, but if there are 2 different dominant traits (snow vs. normal) this could have an effect...correct?

 

[Sandra]

I don't own any TUG snows, but the outcome you had could be perfectly possible being it a dominant trait.

Even if both parents were snows, that doesn't necessarily mean that the offspring is 100% homo. One or both of the parents could be hets (even if they have snow phenotype, that's what it means to be a dominant morph), and then the results would be 100% snows 50% possible homo (if only one was het), or 25% normals and 75% snows 33% possible homo (if both were hets).

I would also like to know the results people had breeding this morph, just to know if it really acts dominant or not.

 

[Sandra]

They claim it is a dom. trait, but if there are 2 different dominant traits (snow vs. normal) this could have an effect...correct?

The way a mutation acts (dominant, recessive, etc) is relative. That means that a morph that is usually dominant (normal), can act recessive when opposed to another mutation (this is the case of all dominant mutations). You could say that they become "het normal".

 

[Emma318]

I would also like to hear more about people's results with this line if anyone wants to share.

 

[elphani]

Here 2 pics of the two hatchlings (banded), one day old. On the second pic there is a normal (aberrant pattern) to compare... please excuse the bad quality!

@GeckoRing: could you post some pictures of your babies please?!
Did you loose some eggs from this pairing? I lost 3 of 6 eggs...but maybe it's a problem with the non snow female...

If both of your Breeders were het. snow and snow was dominant, statistically that would match with 6snow 2not snow... I know, not enough babies to do statistic :main_no: but it gives an idea.
That would also match with my findings of one snow and one normal.

But I can't believe that the TUG snows are het!

Someone else has some ideas???

 

[GeckoRing]

I would be happy to post some pictures. I will try to get to it tomorrow. The 2 are still snows...just a slight yellowing, one is a pastel, the others sort of muddy looking.

 

[GeckoRing]

TUG snow babies

Here are a few of my snows. The first one having the pastel yellow. View attachment 8136

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[elphani]

Wow beautiful Leos! Thanks for the pics!
How did they look when they hatched, especially the pastel?

I was on your hp (looks very good btw - I like that windows that opens with the baby pics!) and had a look at your adult. They seem to have a very pure white! And it's amazing how they changed!

BTW you have a gorgeous Enigma!

 

[GeckoRing]

THe pastel hatched with a pastel look and black lines, those lines are breaking up, but the coloring has remained very much the same. The others all looked pretty similar to the one in the 4th picture. The adult pics on my breeder page need to be redone...maybe I will do that today!