What am i?

[SaSobek]

Ok what is this one. note the yellow stripe down the back. kinda wierd.

but yet red eyes.


lets get some guesses and why you think it is what it is.:main_thumbsup:

 

[SaSobek]

Hint this is the dad.

 

[havbrecis]

Beautiful that what it is!!!

 

[Okee Reps]

No clue

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Goin' out on a limb here...I'm gonna say it's something that hasn't been produced before...:main_huh:...

Bell version of the Diablo Blanco (red eyed Bell Blazing Blizzard)? If so, you need to create a name. :main_yes:

 

[thestack510]

My guess is R.A.P.T.O.R. x Enigma.

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

Blazing Blizzard RAPTOR Enigma.

 

[SaSobek]

Goin' out on a limb here...I'm gonna say it's something that hasn't been produced before...:main_huh:...

Bell version of the Diablo Blanco (red eyed Bell Blazing Blizzard)? If so, you need to create a name. :main_yes:

If it is what i think it is no need for a new name :main_thumbsup: but in a weird way this "combo" has been kinda wierd. In that we thought it was one thing and we now know it wasnt that and that it is something eles. but now with this one what realy is the real one now. Because this one looks different yet again:main_robin:. will the real one please stand up. :main_thumbsup:

looks like more breeding on this guy. will be the only way to know.

 

[crotaphytidae]

Dad looks to be a Nova? without the eyes I don't know. But could the new one be a Mack Snow Nova? (Dreamsickle)

 

[Gazz]

Hint this is the dad.

This is the suspected enigma blizzard but know we know is enigma HET blizzard ??.Was he also HET RAPTOR ??.

 

[SaSobek]

100% not a snow
RAPTOR; in less mark bell had Raptors there is no RAPTOR in there.

Yes that is the bought as "blazzing Blizz enigma" male. This is his first baby. he was breed to Blazzing Blizzard females. i got about 30+ bad eggs before this little one hatched out. Like i told every one when we knew any thing about this gecko we would let people know. it tookalong time and i though he was infertal after all the bad eggs.

Now the big question is the baby looks different then the Blazzing blizzard engima compared to http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Albeytbbe2.jpg so now what.

I think this is a blazzing enigma (I could be wrong). could they look so different? could this be a blazzing enigma? what are they going to look like as adults if they can have more yellow on them? could the dad be an Blazzing enigma after all or just a het? only time will tell all of these things with the hatching of this baby only brings more questions on what is going on. it will be fun to see what is what.

*this is not ment at all to question anyone this is ment for us to think about what is going on with these things and all learn from each other. in the hopes of getting it all figured out in the end.*

 

[MSMD]

Very cool baby, Matt! Thanks for sharing your results!

 

[thestack510]

Now that you mention it, the predominantly white base does imply that there are Blizzard genes at work. I would trust the breeder's word. Even if the father is het for Blizzard and not actually Blizzard it could "throw" Blizzard genes.

 

[Gazz]

could the dad be an Blazzing enigma after all or just a het?

I'd say deffo say enigma HET blizzard.Here a link to Albey's Talbino blizzard enigma's at a more mature stage post #57.
http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=24151&highlight=bllazing+blizzard+enigma&page=6

And a blizzard enigma ID:08LG-09.
http://www.hisss.net/lgavailable.html

 

[SaSobek]

one more little curve ball, these are Patternless tremper enigmas some are more yellow then others. could the Blizzard and blazzing be the same way, in that some show more yellow then others?

 

[Gazz]

one more little curve ball, these are Patternless tremper enigmas some are more yellow then others. could the Blizzard and blazzing be the same way, in that some show more yellow then others?

Yes blizards & albino blizards do express differant amount of yellow leo to leo even in standed form i think that more to do with ancestory.It maybe coz of it's age but ?ruby eyes?.The over all pinky color is like you'd expect of albino blizzard.The puzzlng part is the yellow stripeing?.I would maybe say reverse striped BUT as hatchlings reverse striped from all i've seen in albino form is expressed in a white striped(light) and brown striped(dark) down the spine.And in NON-albino reverse striped is expressed in a black striped yet the leo in question it's yellow?.Even standed dorsal stripe is duller tone i would not expect to see fairly bright yellow.

 

[thestack510]

If it is a Blazing Blizzard x R.A.P.T.O.R. Enigma than it has the equivalent genetic makeup of a Diablo Blanco Enigma but I wouldn't consider it a Diablo Blanco Enigma because it would "throw off" Blazing Blizzard x R.A.P.T.O.R double hets and possibly Diablo Blancos, but not always Diablo Blancos, until you work with the line, correct? Diablo Blancos aren't het for R.A.P.T.O.R or Blazing Blizzard. RT worked with that line for a long time before it hit the scene hard. I have a few Diablo Blancos that I'm raising up right now.I'm crossing them into some interesting things... stay tuned.

 

[Gazz]

Diablo Blancos aren't het for R.A.P.T.O.R or Blazing Blizzard. .

Diablo blaco are visual Blazzing blizard eclipse.And are basically in a sence HET RAPTOR as they are Visual Talbino + eclipse + blizzard and are poly'HET Jungle,Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped.

Diablo blanco X blazzing blizzard = 100%Blazing blizzard HET eclipse.Poly'HET Jungle,Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped.

Diablo blanco X RAPTOR = 100%Talbino eclipse with varyed body patterns Banded,Aberrant,Jungle,Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped.This includs RAPTOR when the Talbino eclipse with the patternless striped = RAPTOR.

So if Diablo blanco wasn't HET BLAZING BLIZZARD or RAPTOR how do you get blazing blizzard from DB X BB and RAPTOR from DB X RAPTOR.

 

[paulnj]

Maybe, that is just a premature enigma that is actually tremper het (blizzard , patty or both). I would give it a shed or 2 before attempting to even guess myself.

Very intriguing though.

 

[David Loftin]

Matt, thanks for the update on breeding that guy.

Paul, I think that is a really good idea.

Yey confusing! Hahaha.. Please keep us updated on this little one.