What are these?

[Kmay571]

So I have a pair of hatchlings that I have no idea what morph they are. One is clearly a snow with something mixed in. The other, I have no idea. The mother was an emerine enigma het cyclone and the father was a snow typhoon. I am not familiar with how the enigma trait changes patterns. Both have solid black eyes.

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[indyana]

They both look to be Mack Snow Enigma. I suspect the second one is also Eclipse, but perhaps someone more familiar with the way Enigma-Eclipse combos look can confirm.

 

[Kmay571]

The second one is so yellow though. I've never seen a snow hatching hatch so yellow.
I believe they are both eclipses. The father was eclipse and the mother was het eclipse.
I do think they are both enigma. The mother was enigma and I wouldn't be able to explain the pattern without it.

Maybe a BEE and a black hole?

 

[indyana]

Mack Snow Eclipses are often very yellowish, which is another reason I suspect that one is Eclipse. Not sure on the first one, but maybe?

 

[Kristi23]

They are both definitely enigma and the first is definitely snow.

As for eclipse, that can be hard with snow enigmas. The pattern is different than a normal eclipse and since the animal is so white, you often don't see the white nose. Also, snow enigmas can have false eclipse eyes. Often times, you'll have to test breed to know for sure. A non snow enigma eclipse is usually easier to see the eclipse markings.

The second may or may not be snow. Since you are using an emerine, you'll get more color than normal. Your snows may all hatch white or you may have some color to them.

If you can get a clearer pic of the nose on the second one, I *may* be able to tell more.