What form of gecko is this...

[Glass_]

Pretty sure I was ripped off by this guy at the show. He said this one was 5-6 months old, but I doubt that's possible, he's no larger than three and a half inches, and said they were too young to be aged right afterward. Paid 80 dollars for him. Anyone have any idea what he is? I think he said he was a raining red, or a bell, or a raining red bell albino(?!)

Edit: Grouped into an album. Better quality. Second pic can't be trusted for color, first one is blurry in his head.
http://imgur.com/a/Qh1sm

 

[LeopardShade]

Pretty sure I was ripped off by this guy at the show. He said this one was 5-6 months old, but I doubt that's possible, he's no larger than three and a half inches, and said they were too young to be aged right afterward. Paid 80 dollars for him. Anyone have any idea what he is? I think he said he was a raining red, or a bell, or a raining red bell albino(?!)

Whoever sold him/her to you seems absolutely crazy. That gecko is nowhere near 5-6 months old. When you say "Raining Red", I think you mean "Raining Redstripe" which is a combination of the recessive Rainwater Albino gene, and the polygenic Red stripe gene. Raining Redstripe Bell? I just shiver at the sound of that. A gecko cannot be a Raining Red Stripe Bell Albino because there are two different albino genes coming into play. It is largely frowned upon to cross albino strains due to the confusion of differentiating the phenotypes.

Someone else could probably identify this morph much better than me. Could you possibly provide an eyeshot? It would help with identifying the strain of albino, considering there seems to be some apparent confusion.

 

[Glass_]

Whoever sold him/her to you seems absolutely crazy. That gecko is nowhere near 5-6 months old. When you say "Raining Red", I think you mean "Raining Redstripe" which is a combination of the recessive Rainwater Albino gene, and the polygenic Red stripe gene. Raining Redstripe Bell? I just shiver at the sound of that. A gecko cannot be a Raining Red Stripe Bell Albino because there are two different albino genes coming into play. It is largely frowned upon to cross albino strains due to the confusion of differentiating the phenotypes.

Someone else could probably identify this morph much better than me. Could you possibly provide an eyeshot? It would help with identifying the strain of albino, considering there seems to be some apparent confusion.

Yes, that's what I meant. And yeah, I was certain that raining redstripe bell wasn't a good thing. I may have misheard, though. Is there any way of proving this is a raining redstripe and not a bell, or the other way around? I was at other booths, and one of them was a bell, so I could just be melding memories together with the raining redstripe bell thing. I can't get an eyeshot tonight, he's really restless and it's late, but I'll try one tomorrow. An eyeshot seems like the best chance of finding out this mystery from what you stated, though. Thanks for the help!

 

[andrew5859]

That does look like a raining red stripe but a better eye shot would be the best way to tell. Doesnt look bell to me at all. Some better pictures and it would be easier to tell. I would say he is around 2 months old. Do you remember who you got him from?

 

[lillith]

It looks like a low-end RRS to me. It clearly has a fully striped tail, there's also traces of a dorsal stripe evident. Geckos only grow as fast as they're fed, so maybe it is as old as stated, but not historically fed as frequently as it wanted.

I do agree a clear eyeshot would help, though.

In the future, if you're not sure what it is, or think it's a possible ripoff?
Don't buy it! Don't reward people who cannot tell you the genetics of what they've produced by giving them money!

 

[Glass_]

That does look like a raining red stripe but a better eye shot would be the best way to tell. Doesnt look bell to me at all. Some better pictures and it would be easier to tell. I would say he is around 2 months old. Do you remember who you got him from?

Ok, maybe it was melding of memories after all. I got him from the Scott Smith's All Animal Expo, from the **dealer name redacted** booth. It was closing time, I'm pretty sure they were just trying to make a quick buck before it was time to go.

It looks like a low-end RRS to me. It clearly has a fully striped tail, there's also traces of a dorsal stripe evident. Geckos only grow as fast as they're fed, so maybe it is as old as stated, but not historically fed as frequently as it wanted.

I do agree a clear eyeshot would help, though.

In the future, if you're not sure what it is, or think it's a possible ripoff?
Don't buy it! Don't reward people who cannot tell you the genetics of what they've produced by giving them money!

I got some pictures of the eye, I think they're pretty good. I used a better camera. Yeah, I was pretty rusty on my knowledge when I bought him, I hadn't been researching in a while 'cause I already knew what I had to with the geckos I had.

http://i.imgur.com/8rvZEh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cuCO4.jpg

What are you looking for in these pictures? Just curious.

 

[4mb3r]

Does seem to be bell to me.. Honestly, it looks decently nice . I like him! Def not as old as they said though

 

[LeopardShade]

I would also go with Raining Red Stripe. I do apologize if I sounded harsh in my first post, I did not mean to call the breeder "crazy" (disrespectful in my eyes) and to go off about a Raining Red Bell.

 

[Glass_]

Don't worry about it Shade, I was also frustrated about what happened but it's fine.

Does anyone else have an opinion about the eyes, whether they're bell or not? What is it that we're looking for in the eyes?

 

[lillith]

Those eyes are actually pretty hard for me to nail down, I am not the Rainwater expert around here...they don't quite look Bell, though, either.

 

[LeopardShade]

I am by no means an expert at identifying albino strains, but the eyes do appear almost Tremper-ish to me, due to their light silver color.

Each albino strain is unique in that they harbor different eyes colors. Tremper Albino eyes are silver-grayish and usually have red veining in them. Rainwater Albino eyes are usually the darkest of the three strains. Lastly, Bell Albino eyes are pinkish. Bells are usually easy to differentiate, considering their stand-out eye coloration compared to gray, but I've always had a hard time telling the eye difference from RW & Tremper.

 

[Glass_]

So it's not a bell? :X Definitely doesn't appear pink. If it's not bell then I'm pretty sure he's rainwater. The tremper was never talked about by the person.. I guess this is solved then? It's refreshing to know he isn't some confusing genetic mix of 2 albinos.

 

[sunshinegeckos]

Looks like a young RRS to me

 

[BrightReptiles]

Btw, if it is indeed a rrs, $80 was not a bad deal.