what is this

[Primestick]

Im lost here. I had a few geckos in a tub 3 diffrent morphs, and this is one of the babies dont know what mother it came from but the father was a shtct.

the females are a blizzard, shtct, and a mac snow.

 

[Primestick]

i had to crapyfy the image do to size restrictions so...

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Hey there! ltns... Very difficult to tell which mother if you aren't sure who laid the eggs. You built a rack last summer didn't you? Regular breeding season is about to start, you should separate all the fems and rotate the male. It's better for the girls to reduce stress from cagemates during egg laying time, plus there is no mistaken who has which eggs. It's just a mess to not know whose is what. Also get rid of the sand! It's only okay to use sand until it isn't, and most of the time it's too late to save the animal, as issues aren't obvious early on.

 

[Primestick]

yea i sold that rack and bought a vision rack... the first breeding i wasnt too worried about who layed what i just wanted to have baby geckos. But now im actualy doing it right. I am building breeding groups 2-3 of the same females and im guna get a couple males to put with certain groups.... It was just so exciding to have baby geckos hatch and even more fun to care for the little guys.

 

[Jordan]

was the baby black and white at birth? ... because if she was then it defnitely came from the mack snow, if it wasnt then it could have came from either.

Just out of interest, how do you have an SHTCT blizzard...? lol.

 

[Primestick]

yes she was black and white at birth... there was suppose to be a comma there

 

[Gazz]

Just out of interest, how do you have an SHTCT blizzard...? lol.

Well i don't know how you can say SHTCT blizzard, As the blizzard gene will mask the traits so you can't see them, So you can't say wheather it's Super hypo/Or if it's Tangerine or has Carrottail. But you can deffo get a Hypo blizzard.

If you breed a Blizzard to a Normal, You get 100%Normal HET Blizzard.

If you breed a Hypo blizzard to a normal, You get 50%Normal HET Blizzard and 50%Hypo HET Blizzard, If the Hypo blizzard is [1C].
Or 100%Hypo HET Blizzard if the Hypo blizzard is [2C].

 

[Gazz]

yes she was black and white at birth... there was suppose to be a comma there

Then the snow is the mother :main_thumbsup:.

And the leo in question is a Hypo snow. It got the hypo trait from dad, And the snow trait from mum :main_thumbsup:.

 

[Jordan]

yes she was black and white at birth... there was suppose to be a comma there

well there's your answer, as i mentioned in my last post, if it was black and white at birth then it came from the mack snow.

and to Gazz, thats talking about the co dom hypo trait rather than polygenic hypo, in terms of SHTCT, then the hypo is polygenic, therefore there cant really be a blizzard that is an SHTCT, but a blizzard can contain the hypo co dom gene.

 

[Gazz]

and to Gazz, thats talking about the co dom hypo trait rather than polygenic hypo, in terms of SHTCT, then the hypo is polygenic, therefore there cant really be a blizzard that is an SHTCT, but a blizzard can contain the hypo co dom gene.

Super hypo tangerine carrottail is both Dominant and polygenetic with the Super(As in no body spots)/Tangerine/Carrottail being Polygenic, And the Hypo being Dominant(As in spots restricted to body bands). One thing Hypo deffo is not is Codominant.

So,

[1C]Super hypo X Blizzard = .

Normal HET Blizzard.
[1C]Hypo HET Blizzard.

A percent of the Hypo will likly mature into Super.
A percent of offspring will likly be influanced by Tangerine and express Orange in the tail in differant percentages.

 

[Jordan]

Super hypo tangerine carrottail is both Dominant and polygenetic with the Super(As in no body spots)/Tangerine/Carrottail being Polygenic, And the Hypo being Dominant(As in spots restricted to body bands). One thing Hypo deffo is not is Codominant.

So,

[1C]Super hypo X Blizzard = .

Normal HET Blizzard.
[1C]Hypo HET Blizzard.

A percent of the Hypo will likly mature into Super.
A percent of offspring will likly be influanced by Tangerine and express Orange in the tail in differant percentages.

but from that, Breeding a super hypo to a normal and the offspring come out hypo (not super hypo) that just sort of proves it to be polygenic, the polygenic trait is sort of halved when bred to a normal (or gecko not hypo),
e.g a bright tangerine to a normal, would result in the offspring being somewhere in between, it doesnt mean that tangerine is then dominant.
Super hypo, being bred to a normal would in affect sort of half the polygenic trait, making the offspring hypo.

 

[Gazz]

but from that, Breeding a super hypo to a normal and the offspring come out hypo (not super hypo) that just sort of proves it to be polygenic,

The offspring can and do mature to Super hypo from such a breeding.

[1C]Super hypo X Normal = .

Normal.
[1C]Hypo.


A percent of the Hypo will likly mature into Super.
A percent of offspring will likly be influanced by Tangerine and express Orange in the tail in differant percentages.

 

[Jordan]

The offspring can and do mature to Super hypo from such a breeding.

[1C]Super hypo X Normal = .

Normal.
[1C]Hypo.


A percent of the Hypo will likly mature into Super.
A percent of offspring will likly be influanced by Tangerine and express Orange in the tail in differant percentages.

yes and from breeding a tangerine, to a normal a lot of the off spring will mature into nice tangerines.

Many people know Hypo as a polygenic and i belive that, so dont start putting big bold letters like that, i tihough we was having a nice discussion about genetics but im not continuing if its going to be like that.

 

[Gazz]

yes and from breeding a tangerine, to a normal a lot of the off spring will mature into nice tangerines.

Many people know Hypo as a polygenic and i belive that, so dont start putting big bold letters like that, i tihough we was having a nice discussion about genetics but im not continuing if its going to be like that.

Beleave what you want, But IMO based on results i've seen over the years, and the look of hypo's, The color tone and spot lay out when they express spots is to uniforned to be Polygenic.

Standed Hypo are always that dusty yellow tone, And spots are always retaind with in the body bands area. It was even the same a couple year back. When i bred a Hypo to a Normal and got Hypo offspring, And bred the Hypo offspring to normals again and got Hypo's that looked just the same again.

Like this. Sorry but i don't beleave that uniformed look is Polygenic.
There's a dominant more controled gene behind it.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4833181903_9b4fb0a7d6_z.jpg

And please don't bring that whole 7-spots hypo, More than 7-spot it's a Hi-yellow thing up.
I've heard that fairy story also :main_rolleyes:. That leo in that link is a Hypo.