What morphs can my colony produce?

[syntheticreality]

I have a patternless male (not recessive, but maybe het), with a blazing blizzard female and a hypo tangerine carrot-tail female.


So...

patternless x hypo tang carrot-tail

and

patternless x blazing blizzard


What morphs can come from this?

 

[paulnj]

degraded hypo tangerines

and

normal double het patty / blizzard

 

[syntheticreality]

so nothing really good looking?

what about the second generation?

no way to get any patties or blizzards?

what kind of male would I need to replace the patty with the get something good?? patty albino?

 

[syntheticreality]

my first post was supposed to say that the patternless is not albino, but possibly het for albino

he is a definite murphy patternless though

 

[ataber]

id get a tang albino or sunglow/hybino whichever u wanna call it to replace the patty. this way youll get tangs het albino from the first breeding and assuming the new addition is same albino strain as the blazing blizzard you'd get albinos het blizzard which you could then breed back together or to the original blazing to get some more blazing blizzards.

if you got a patty albino nothing would change on the first breeding except the tangs would be het albino now too. with the second breeding you would, again assuming the albino strains were the same, get albinos het patty and blizzard which you could breed together for a multitude of combinations..

you could also get a super snow male and then you'd get a bunch of snows het for all the other genes and then breed them back together to try for some snow and super snow combos.

 

[paulnj]

well patty het tremper(or is it poss het rainwater like most albino patternless are?) would big you some albinos if it carries the tremper gene when mated to a Tremper BB. The animal wouls still be double het patty/ blizz

 

[syntheticreality]

Great advice so far. Thank you!

Right now I am without a male, so I need to decide what male to get

My three females are a hypo-tang (about ready to breed), a blazing blizzard, and an albino patternless that has some darker orange spots on her and looks to me like an APTOR. The patty albino and blizzy probably wont be ready to breed until the end of the season or not until next season.

The guy I got the blizzy and patty albino from said that his distributor gave him some "upgrade" ones with those patty albinos so could that be an APTOR?

He told me all of these came from the Bell farm so all of the albino in them is bell.

What, now, would be the best male for me to get?

 

[paulnj]

Mark works with tremper blazing, tremper patty, NO (R)APTORS that I know off and his albino line(bell albinos)

You are confusung me, so post an image of the females.

 

[syntheticreality]

Sorry for the confusion. I kinda forgot to mention. I am a completely new to this.

here are pics of the two new females.

I forgot to mention... there is no carrot tail on the patty albino female (so that means she cant be APTOR?) What would I then class her as?

 

[paulnj]

BB and albino patty. If from Bell(reptile industries), my bet is tremper patty.

 

[Ccrashca069]

She looks very tremper to me also.

 

[syntheticreality]

so why the spots? I picked her specifically for those because she was unique. The other albino patties had no spotting like that. Was choosing the spotted one a bad move?

 

[ataber]

they have no relevance....APTOR's do not have THAT patternless gene. most likely both are tremper line, especially the BB since no bell BB's are known to be alive

 

[paulnj]

young patternless animals are spotted, they grow out of them.

 

[syntheticreality]

lol, so I should have taken one of the bigger ones instead of taking the smallest one because she looked the coolest.

 

[syntheticreality]

so... something like a giant tangerine tremper would be an awesome stud for my females, eh?

 

[paulnj]

that would work, and what a coinidence... I have one for sale too

 

[syntheticreality]

pm me best price, because I've got a wholesaler that Ii've bought mine from really cheap

 

[paulnj]

no thank you

 

[syntheticreality]

sorry