What Morphs? Pls help

[Awelliver7]

What morphs would you guys say these guys all are?
Top is Mom Lilly
Middle is her son Squirt
Bottom is Dad Leo

Some of the babies that they've made together
Squirt as a baby

Squirt now

Baby that hatched yesterday

Clutchmate that didn't make it

Another baby that didn't make it

Thanks guys!

 

[ajveachster]

I'm not good at this, but Dad looks like a normal. He must be a het albino since squirt is a visual albino, but tremper or bell I'm not sure. Guessing mom may be some sort of red stripe out-cross since the stripe looks rather dark. The last baby looks like it might have ended up being some sort of snow. The other babies look like Hypos. I'm sure somebody more experienced will be able to elaborate, and get closer.

 

[Awelliver7]

Thank you. I agree with you on Squirt's morph. I think he might be a Tremper. As far as the others I'm stumped...I'm thinking there is jungle in there somewhere considering the patterns on the babies.

 

[Wandering Paddle]

im not seeing the albino or the snow...

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

1.) Mom's some sort of Bold Stripe het Tremper, I'd say.
2.) Squirt looks like a Stripe influenced Tremper.
3.) Dad has to be a Mack Snow het Tremper.

 

[cassadaga]

I see no reason to suspect any parent being a mack. Lilly looks like she was born with a banded pattern, and developed spots in a dorsal striped pattern.

 

[Baoh]

I don't see any Mack Snow babies.

Mom and dad are gorgeous and appear to be het Tremper.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

OK, that last baby looks Mack Snow to me. And so does Dad. You can both think what you like. :main_rolleyes:

 

[Awelliver7]

Thank you everyone. To me I think the Dad looks mack snow but some say normal some say mack....?? Dunno. If I have a hypo snow if I breed dad to it...would the babies be snow if he was snow or is there anyway that could help figure out his morph. I know both mom and dad HAVE to be het. albino. Still not sure what type of albino but I think I'm sticking with Tremper. It just doesn't seem like your normal looking Tremper thats for sure! Some of the babies appear normal and the one with the spot on it's back I have no idea if thats jungle or what. As for the mack snowish looking baby. I think it may just be albino and have light coloring because it didn't make it......any thoughts to all that? lol You guys have been very helpful thank you again!

 

[Baoh]

Thank you everyone. To me I think the Dad looks mack snow but some say normal some say mack....?? Dunno. If I have a hypo snow if I breed dad to it...would the babies be snow if he was snow or is there anyway that could help figure out his morph. I know both mom and dad HAVE to be het. albino. Still not sure what type of albino but I think I'm sticking with Tremper. It just doesn't seem like your normal looking Tremper thats for sure! Some of the babies appear normal and the one with the spot on it's back I have no idea if thats jungle or what. As for the mack snowish looking baby. I think it may just be albino and have light coloring because it didn't make it......any thoughts to all that? lol You guys have been very helpful thank you again!

If Dad was a Mack Snow, I'd expect some (50% if you have enough offspring) to be Mack Snows. That little dead albino has some light yellow to the bands that are crossing the body and, like you said, it could be a matter of lacking full development at that point. All of my Mack Snow babies, whether dead in the egg or hatched, have the white bands only. Now, I have had some Mack Snow babies that have started to yellow up in as little as a week, but they all hatched with white bands only. For the babies that died before hatching, again, only white bands. That's just my experience, though.

I don't usually go by the adult look unless it's a glaring example or a Super Snow form (those are generally easy). I go by the hatchling appearance and the appearance of the offspring. Exceptions include if the breeder knows, and then we take it on faith.

I have a Fasciolatus that puts nine out of ten or better Mack Snows to shame in terms of looking like a Snow. Going by the adult appearance isn't always accurate.