white substance in warm hide from my male leo.

[grboxa]

i gave my thoughts in a thread "white slime" where the op stated her leo created white slime for a bowel movement and i told her that males release this white substance to attract females and mabye thats what it was...from what I was told. i found this in my males hide...assuming its the same thing im talking about can someone just confirm or share any opinions on this matter...will they always be producing this substance..this is the first time i seen so much of it..usually I see droplets in his warm hide?.

 

[reps4life]

i gave my thoughts in a thread "white slime" where the op stated her leo created white slime for a bowel movement and i told her that males release this white substance to attract females and mabye thats what it was...from what I was told. i found this in my males hide...assuming its the same thing im talking about can someone just confirm or share any opinions on this matter...will they always be producing this substance..this is the first time i seen so much of it..usually I see droplets in his warm hide?.

The waxy pheromone males release from their pores is usually undetectable to humans. So that is definately not it. He is obviously drinking lots of water for whatever reason.

 

[grboxa]

i feel stupid now lol...should of done more research.

 

[grboxa]

sorry for the bump...im just worried now that no one seen this before. going to a vet regardless this wed, just wanted to see if anyone had this happen to them before or seen it in other situation..

 

[endrien]

sorry for the bump...im just worried now that no one seen this before. going to a vet regardless this wed, just wanted to see if anyone had this happen to them before or seen it in other situation..

Was what you found in your leos hide dry? It just looks like urate to me, though the picture is pretty low quality. A lot of times if there an excess of water, the gecko will expel it along with its feces, sometimes creating a liquid-like urate which when it dries looks like what you found. It shouldn't be anything to worry about unless you see it all the time, which means he could be trying to get too much water for some reason(Parasites tend to dehydrate, but pooping with a little water is not a huge factor in identifying parasites).

In terms of seeing this, I see it all the time with my bearded dragon after he gets a long bath or eats a lot of greens and he is perfectly healthy. It is simply more noticeable with him than geckos as dragons tend to take in more water.

 

[grboxa]

yeah it was found exactlly how it is in the picture in the warm hide....ive been told its not common for geckos to drink water and noticed my gecko drink on 3 occasions today...someone told me chances are he is dehydrated..if he dosent go poop tonight he might be constipated aswell...either way vet is going down on wed...thank you for your input.

 

[endrien]

yeah it was found exactlly how it is in the picture in the warm hide....ive been told its not common for geckos to drink water and noticed my gecko drink on 3 occasions today...someone told me chances are he is dehydrated..if he dosent go poop tonight he might be constipated aswell...either way vet is going down on wed...thank you for your input.

A vet visit is always good, have you noticed any weight loss, lethargy or bad smelling poop? These are some general signs of parasites.

 

[grboxa]

A vet visit is always good, have you noticed any weight loss, lethargy or bad smelling poop? These are some general signs of parasites.

lethargy meaning slow sluggish?...then no hes been acting normal...at night hes active..he still wants to eat..no weight losss...perfect poop since day 1...and the smell hasnt been anything worse then the first day...and his urate is always nice and white.....would just a fecal test suffice?...or should i get both fecal test and full exam.

 

[endrien]

lethargy meaning slow sluggish?...then no hes been acting normal...at night hes active..he still wants to eat..no weight losss...perfect poop since day 1...and the smell hasnt been anything worse then the first day...and his urate is always nice and white.....would just a fecal test suffice?...or should i get both fecal test and full exam.

A lot of places will require an exam before fecal testing, if you have never had an exam done on him before I would recommend it, assuming you have the extra money.
And yes, lethargy would be sluggish.

 

[grboxa]

A lot of places will require an exam before fecal testing, if you have never had an exam done on him before I would recommend it, assuming you have the extra money.

well its not extra..but if its what needs to be done then yeah i have to...my vet allows me to do a fecal without exam...but if something comes up positive then i need to do a full exam anyway......about the parasites his poop has been normal since day 1...can leos have high load parasites even if there bowel movements are normal?

 

[endrien]

well its not extra..but if its what needs to be done then yeah i have to...my vet allows me to do a fecal without exam...but if something comes up positive then i need to do a full exam anyway......about the parasites his poop has been normal since day 1...can leos have high load parasites even if there bowel movements are normal?

You would generally notice a high parasite load, even without looking at the poop. The gecko would not have put on any weight and may even look emaciated, a gecko with a high parasite load does not look healthy. A low parasite load is manageable generally, when stress is added into the mix it suppresses a reptiles immune system to where the parasites can get out of control, again you would probably notice this. A very thin tale is a sign that something is wrong, a fat tale usually means a healthy gecko.
You use calcium and multivitamin supplements right?

 

[grboxa]

i stopped using calcium/d3 and vitamins after switching from mealworms to silkworms. hes been on a staple of silkworms for about 2 months now ..i asked on this forum if i should still supplement and i was told not to since silkworms are already a high load of nutrients...and hes been gaining weight no problem..his tail is nice and fat for a 6 month old...im an inexperienced keeper but everything seems normal to me besides the white substance and the instances where he drank more then people say is common..along with noticing about 3 times since i got him from what i remember producing urate without a bowel movement

 

[endrien]

i stopped using calcium/d3 and vitamins after switching from mealworms to silkworms. hes been on a staple of silkworms for about 2 months now ..i asked on this forum if i should still supplement and i was told not to since silkworms are already a high load of nutrients...and hes been gaining weight no problem..his tail is nice and fat for a 6 month old...im an inexperienced keeper but everything seems normal to me besides the white substance and the instances where he drank more then people say is common..along with noticing about 3 times since i got him from what i remember producing urate without a bowel movement

Urate without a bowel movement is not really a huge deal, it can be due to stress or needing to get rid of Urate before food is fully digested.
It shouldn't be an extremely regular thing, but not too much to worry about.

Be sure to let us know how the vet visit goes .

 

[grboxa]

def will keep posted...thanks alot for posting.:main_thumbsup:

 

[reps4life]

i gave my thoughts in a thread "white slime" where the op stated her leo created white slime for a bowel movement and i told her that males release this white substance to attract females and mabye thats what it was...from what I was told. i found this in my males hide...assuming its the same thing im talking about can someone just confirm or share any opinions on this matter...will they always be producing this substance..this is the first time i seen so much of it..usually I see droplets in his warm hide?.

I deleted it because I felt it will mislead people to believe this was the cause in this case which is not necessarily so. My intention was to show what excess urates looked like, but I should have spoken to him first.

 

[endrien]

With the amount I have seen in all the photos I would consider him polydipsic. Please everyone be careful with oversupplementing which is one of the causes. Especially if you feed higher quality insect as in Silkworms which had a good amount of vitamins in itself. A puddle here and there is fine but this is excess.

There were other pictures? That is a different story then.

 

[grboxa]

There were other pictures? That is a different story then.

no other pictures, shes talking about the ones I posted in this thead:main_yes:

 

[gecko4245]

i gave my thoughts in a thread "white slime" where the op stated her leo created white slime for a bowel movement and i told her that males release this white substance to attract females and mabye thats what it was...from what I was told. i found this in my males hide...assuming its the same thing im talking about can someone just confirm or share any opinions on this matter...will they always be producing this substance..this is the first time i seen so much of it..usually I see droplets in his warm hide?.

that's alot of pee, is he ok?