Wierd cross question

malt_geckos

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Okies, I need some help with the second generation please....

Green TangerineX Patternless Red Stripe = 100% Normal Tang influence het patternless het Red Stripe (even though RedS may be a line bred trait)

Is that right? If so, here's the second part

Double het X Double het = WTF?:bomb: Lots of stuff? I'm guessing there would be

Patternless het RS
Red Stripe het P
Patternless Red Stripe
Tangerines?

All with that green tang influence?


Paul, I'm going to say this only ONCE EVER....I need you.
 

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Don't tell Matt, but my GF just agreed that all woman need a good MAN like me.....hahaha

I don't know the genetics behind patternless red stripe, so get me the genetic makeup and we're in business girl. I would think it's reverse stripe X redstripe?
 

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The genetics behind the patty red stripe would be known by Dan. Too bad hes not on right now...

Oh and Paul, if you want the heebie jeebies I was the one that said I needed you for the help earlier...jk.

Matt
 

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Patternless redstripe ... redstripe and what makes that? It can't be the murphy patternless gene from my understanding so I will use reverse sripe x REDSTRIPE

As most of those trait reply on line breeding(green comes from tang over lavendar) The first generation should be tang/lav geckos "het reverse stripe" and degraded redstripe. I suspect the "reverse stripe" is also line bred too.

From there it gets trickier but here's my take on it(purely speculation on my part)

Green TangerineX Patternless Red Stripe X Green TangerineX Patternless Red Stripe

Should give you varying degrees of patternless redstripes, redstripes and the added gene to make patternless redstripes(we'll call it reverse stripe) that have varying degrees of "green"(tang over lavandar)

Honestly, Dan is the one who can surely correct me on this if I am off on my thinking:main_rolleyes:
 

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You know Paul, I was thinking about how you said green is lavender over tangerine. I'm not too sure if that's always the case. Our female HG tang is loaded with green. In the middle of a green patch on her back is a larger lavender spot. That picture you fixed for us and PMed us is a picture of her. How can that be explained?
 

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Yes the PRS can come from Red Stripe X Reverse Stripe Albino, and also whatever combination made the first Aptors. The "patternless" part of both, are one in the same.

Jungle/Stripe traits are more or less "het" for Reverse Stripe.

Reverse Stripe traits are more or less "het" for "Patternless" and Jungle/Stripe.

Then "Patternless" are pretty much "het" for everything else.

Now that we are "past" all of those single traits, and have come to have such a large combination of them in the Aptor, Raptor, Eclipse, and "Patternless Stripe" lines.... we have more or less "multi hets".

Meaning, now we can have a Jungle or Stripe that is het Aptor (or Raptor) but can throw any pattern, or even a "Raptor".

I have actually never heard of a Aptor or het Aptor that was not "het Raptor", and even the first Aptors sold were all hets, as far as we know.

So by using a Patternless Red Stripe you are adding all of those other traits to your project as well, and it will make your head spin to try to predict outcomes from further breedings. LOL Hope this helps. Just have fun with them, and good luck!:main_thumbsup:
 
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