Would anyone help me identify the morph of this leo?

[Maliel]

We had her at my shop as an enigma only but she looks like a super snow bell enigma her eyes just aren't as intensely red- I honestly am incredibly lacking when it comes to all the leo morphs and my guess is just based on comparison pictures. She has some horrible neurological issues- a pretty severe head tilt and it seems she mainly moves in circles (Her name is Circles because of this). Any suggestions, as well, on any particular supplements I should be pushing because of the NI (not that anything will help the NI)? I supplement calcium and some Vit A once a week because of previous eye issues she had. Already had to run her on terramycin once Poor bugger hated that. ANYWHO any suggestions/thoughts would be very appreciated. Oh, I hand feed her a few wax worms every day. She cannot really eat unless I feed her.

 

[ZombiGecko]

My guess is snow/super snow enigma. Possibly albino mixed in there? Shes very pretty!

 

[Ashley Wilcox]

Im not good on morphs but it sounds to me that she has enigma syndrome. DO NOT BREED HER. also feed her more crickets and mealworms because feeding her just wax worms will cause fatty liver disease. Good luck with her, she will prolly have to be hand fed for the rest of her life. I wouldnt recommend selling her because of the life she will have.

 

[Maliel]

Oh she definitely has the neuro problems associated with Enigmas, that's without a doubt. She's got it bad, too. I don't recall ever mentioning breeding her or selling her??? As for wax worms- right now I'm fattening her up. At my store no one hand fed her so she was incredibly underweight. She's about where she should be now. I'll eventually switch to different feeders. Crickets are absolutely horrible and I'm surprised anyone here would suggest them. They are coccidia carriers and usually parasite ridden and I don't want to be panacuring her twice a year just to feed a nutrient-deficient bug to her XD I'll be mashing roaches and hornworms once I convert her. For the record I just took her home. We cannot sell sick/mutilated animals for obvious reasons and she would've starved to death anyway. I just want to know what she actually is since she looks so different and any different supplements she should be on.

 

[Ashley Wilcox]

Im sorry, I wasnt trying to apply that, that was your intentions. it was just a suggestion. as for the crickets, I heard it depends on where you get them from. and some people cannot get their hands on roaches and hornworms, so crickets come in hand. I have never heard of them being bad.

 

[Maliel]

Crickets are pretty down there on the "good for you" feeder list, around there with meal worms but I'd cite meal worms as the worst. Fortunately I live on the east coast with several places that have feeders- one of which I work at so I've got a ton of great food at my fingertips. Our crickets and meal worms are all farm raised but I still never trust a cricket because they are all coccidia carriers (locality/breeders/etc doesn't change their carrier status) Plus they are mostly exoskeleton with minimal meat on the inside, even when gutloaded (which we do). It takes ~30 crickets to match the nutritional value of one adult hornworm and almost 80 meal worms to equate. The hornworms are a lot safer, too and boast no exoskeleton. Which is great and makes them perfect for mashing to syringe feed. @_@ which I will have to do with her. Yuck. D: I'm iffy on meal worms for delicate reptiles like younger Leos- they are hard to digest and can cause impaction and internal damage by chewing if your pet doesn't chew its food. It rarely, rarely ever happens and most people cite that meal worms only eat decaying, already dead animals but I've seen it happen twice firsthand so that's enough to make me keep those to a bare minimum @_@ but that's just paranoia on my part.

 

[Ashley Wilcox]

wow, thanks for your knowledge. is there and website that I can purchase hornworms and roaches? I will do research on how to keep them. thanks again. hopefully you can find out what your little enigma friend is and best of luck to you. He is a beauty

 

[Maliel]

We order from great lakes hornworms- I'm not sure if they have a website or not. Just keep in mind a lot of reptiles get hooked on hornworms and become fussy when you try to feed them anything else. This doesn't harm them but hornworms are a more expensive feeder like roaches so it's more out of pocket cost for you

 

[Ashley Wilcox]

they already put me in the hole, so might as well put me in the hole with something that is healthy for them...lol thanks again

 

[Maliel]

Hahaha, I feel your pain. If I didn't get a discount I'd be out so much money ;_;

 

[Ozy]

Repashy Calcium Plus is a good supplement. You dust every feeder with it. Your gecko needs more than calcium and vitamin A. Repashy Calcium Plus will provide that. Make sure you are gut loading your bugs. Repashy Bug Burger is what I use. This way you know your leo is getting all of the nutrients it needs.

 

[Maliel]

Repashy Calcium Plus is a good supplement. You dust every feeder with it. Your gecko needs more than calcium and vitamin A. Repashy Calcium Plus will provide that. Make sure you are gut loading your bugs. Repashy Bug Burger is what I use. This way you know your leo is getting all of the nutrients it needs.

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Right now I'm using Repashy SuperCal and like I said the Vit A is a once a week thing just to keep her eyes in check.

 

[Maliel]

p.s. still need help trying to figure out what she is D: please :3

 

[RampantReptiles]

MS Bell Enigma most likely

 

[NinjaDuo]

You can breed enigmas, but if you're unaware of the lineage I wouldn't breed.

 

[Newworlddragons]

Mac snow bell enigma