Yes I need help

[gko reptiles]

We have had the hardest time sexing some of our geckos and want to know what everyone thinks. We have gone to extremes of actually magnifying to see if the pores were actually pores. We have just decided to let them grow bigger before we sell them. Make a long story short we have been incubating almost everything for females. This gecko is at 20 grams and seems to have bulges starting to grow. We havn't had enough males to compare the bulges to. Is this a male??? or a female?? And if anyone has pics of a gecko at this weight that is male that I can compare to it would be great. Please help it is taking us way too long to sex these geckos when it can be so easy.

 

[GeckoJunkie]

Female

 

[gothra]

I'd say male...because of the bulges.

 

[gko reptiles]

Thomas you are awesome. So what is considered a bulge at that age???

 

[gko reptiles]

ahhhhhhh lol

 

[elphani]

I have exactly the same problem this year!
Last year it was so easy... with the age of two weeks a was able to say if its a male or female - but this year... I don't know why it's that difficult...
I'm looking again and again but can't decide... or I decide for female and after 2 Months they look exactly like yours :main_angry: .
And I have no male to compare either.

But the males are quiet obvious...arn't they - so I think this are females... were they male we would see it at the first moment...
...and time will tell :main_yes: !

 

[GeckoJunkie]

I look at the bulges and the pores as well. On the bulges I try and tell if it looks like two bulges or just one big bulge. One big bulge to me looks female and most of the time it is. Two bulges kinda split in the middle looks male to me. The one bulge with no pores tells me it would be a female. And although I feel comfortable with my method it too is not always right.

 

[elphani]

@GeckoJunkie: at what age are you sure about the sex?

 

[GeckoJunkie]

LOL.....now that is a trick question. At about 6 weeks or so I can look and be pretty sure of the sex. But of course the older the better. I have a friend also that has been breeding leopards and we both try and keep up with whether ornot we are right on the sexes and the most of the time I am right. But as I said in the other post I am NOT 100% all the time for sure. I still have some of them fool me. One thing that he and I have found out in watching each others calls is that if it is your gecko, it is harder to sex. Kinda like you wish it was a male but it looks female. I think it is kinda like your not wanting to admit it is female. If that makes sense?

 

[GeckoJunkie]

Heres a couple

On the first one it looks like I can see a valley starting to form between the two bugles, Leads me to think it is a male (Although it was incubated for female) And the second picture you can not see the little valley. Both were hatched on 7/13 and are siblings in the same incubation baox everything. Both you would think would be the same sex but looking at them I am fairly sure one is male and one is female. I think that a female has the bugle as well as the male does. BUT in a female it will be one solid bugle and male will have the dividing line between the bulges, and in the female it is not as developed of a bugle as we see in a male. I use to try and hold them up with the tail slightly bent and look at them from the rear to see if I could see the bulges BUT you can see them in male and female just not a profound in females as with males. Do I think my method is perfect....No I dont but I do think it is kinda like "popping" baby king snakes... you kinda get a feel for it. Hope this makes sense as I just got home after working an overnight 12 hour shift.

 

[elphani]

I think that a female has the bugle as well as the male does. BUT in a female it will be one solid bugle and male will have the dividing line between the bulges, and in the female it is not as developed of a bugle as we see in a male. I use to try and hold them up with the tail slightly bent and look at them from the rear to see if I could see the bulges BUT you can see them in male and female just not a profound in females as with males.

Thats exactly what I think! I always look for that ''dividing line''!
But this year the ''bulges'' of the females are sooo big ...

 

[Stitch]

From my understanding it is very difficult to sex at this age using the "bulge factor". From what I have been told by other breeders it is best to go by pores at this age and weight. You guys have taken very nice pics but I use a Loupe to look for the pores. You should be able to get a Loupe at most photo stores fairly cheap. You want one that is 10X magnifyer, this is what I use: Loupe


P.S. I would say male for the first pic, but again I use the Loupe and it gives a very clear image.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

From my understanding it is very difficult to sex at this age using the "bulge factor".

I say the gecko is a female. In the majority of cases like this, at 20 grams if it's a male it will be quite obvious. There are actually times where young females look 'bulgy' like they could develop into males, and sexing them is a challenge even for me! When looking at pores with a loupe or magnifying glass, the females will have dimples where the males have actual pores.

If you can wait another week or two until 'she' is at 25 grams, and it still isn't obviously a male, you will have your answer!

 

[LeosForLess]

Ive had the same problem, only with my snows.

 

[paulnj]

My females look exactly like that...slight singular bulge at times too....... FEMALE

 

[Airilith]

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I'm having problems sexing too. Though my problem probably stems from me being a newbie. My lil Zelda is hopefully a little girl. Here are some pics.

Male or Female?