young geckos gravid

[nicolenadia]

I had a clutch hatch in May and I separated them about 2 weeks after. They are both gravid now and in my opinion, too young to be gravid. I know its pretty normal for females to ovulate even if there is no male around, but 7 month old geckos???? is this normal?

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

Ron Tremper told me he had a 4 month old lay eggs! He also think that the warmer they are incubated the larger they are when they first develope follicles. How large is she? If she is over 50-55 grams then she already over the recommanded weight. Kelli states that females in her experince which aren't bred and have follicles typcally suffer a great than ones which are bred. You could always try and just breed her just once.

 

[eyelids]

Kelli states that females in her experince which aren't bred and have follicles typcally suffer a great than ones which are bred. You could always try and just breed her just once.

Yep, I had a 7 month old ovulating back in June and I followed Kelli's advice and she laid 7 clutches. 4 clutches hatched and 3 are still incubating with a hatch ratio of 7:1. She's gravid again and hopefully this will be her last clutch because she deserves a break. By the way, she was 65 grams when she started and is currently 60 grams.

 

[nicolenadia]

Both of them are under 50 gms, im sure of that. to me they are still little. I can weigh them tonight but If I had to guess, I would say about 30 gms. From what you are telling me, I should put them both with a male because they could suffer??? Is it too late to introduce a male since they are pretty full, and my males are all twice the size of them, I don't think thats fair.

 

[eyelids]

Ovulating or not 30 grams is way too small for breeding.

 

[nicolenadia]

I know, I don't get it. I will post some pics tonight. They are healthy for their age; nice plump tail and good size for their age, but they are not large enough to breed. Theyw ere incubated at a pretty steady 85 and their parents are a very large 75 gm yellow male and a 50 gm normal female. There is no way I want to introduce them to males right now.

 

[ExcessiveHerps]

Both of them are under 50 gms, im sure of that. to me they are still little. I can weigh them tonight but If I had to guess, I would say about 30 gms. From what you are telling me, I should put them both with a male because they could suffer??? Is it too late to introduce a male since they are pretty full, and my males are all twice the size of them, I don't think thats fair.

What I mean tis Kelli stated ovulating females which aren't bred seem to under go more stress still loose weight and don't gain it back like a breeding female would. I also have a rahter small female maybe 40 grams which had follicles due to her size I had no intestion to breed her. She seem to have obsorbe them do.
Xavier

 

[BalloonzForU]

I had a 60+ gram female last year, that refused to breed. She absorbed her eggs no issue, didn't loose a gram. Then I had a 48 gram female, never bred, start ovulating and laying eggs. I couldn't get her to stop, so I put a male with her, and low and behold she absorbed the last clutch, and didn't loose any more weight, and is up to breeding size now.

Now the reason I went ahead and put the male in there is, as Kelli did say breeding was better, she had also stated that it seemed to take more out of the females when they laid duds.

Now I have a theory that makes some sense, but I've only witnessed this once, and don't know how the follicles and eggs are developed inside the leo exactly. My female that was laying infertile eggs due to being a virgin, held those eggs a very long time before she laid each of the 4 clutches, almost 1 to 1.5 month between. Is it poss that they hold onto them longer and keep nutrition flowing to the follicles/eggs in hopes they will eventually be fertilized? Mean while not eating due to less room for food? Does a female that absorbs the eggs gets most of that nutrition back?