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[Gekkon]

What do I get, if i have a male Tangerine TA and females: Enigma TA, sunglow het RAPTOR and sunglow TA?

 

[Tony C]

Tang TA x Enigma TA:
50% TA
50% Enigma TA
all offspring will show varying degrees of Tang influence

Tang TA x Sunglow het RAPTOR
100% TA, 50% het RAPTOR
You should get a high percentage of Tangerine/Sunglow offspring from this pairing.

Tang TA x Sunglow TA
100% TA
As above, you should get a high percentage of Tangerine/Sunglow offspring from this pairing.

 

[Gekkon]

Thank you vey much, Tony.

Not to create a similiar topic:

What do I get, if i cross a male Sunglow with females Blazing Blizzard, SHTCT, Enigma TA.

 

[Tony C]

I'm assuming that the Sunglow and Blazing Blizzard are both Trempers, correct? If so, then:

Sunglow x Blazing Blizzard
100% Tremper het Blizzard, with varying degrees of Tang influence

Sunglow x SHTCT
100% Tangerine het Tremper

Sunglow x Enigma TA will be the same as the Tang Tremper x Enigma TA in your last post, as Sunglow is just another name for Tangerine Albino.

 

[Gekkon]

I thought that sunglow and tangerine TA differ somehow...

 

[Gekkon]

What are they?

 

[Tony C]

Not really, I think originally Sunglow was used exclusively for Tangerine Trempers, but there are a lot of people now selling "Bell Sunglows" and "Rainwater Sunglows", so that original distinction has disappeared from common use.

 

[cassadaga]

In my opinion a Sunglow is a SHTCT albino, while a Tangerine Tremper can be just an orange Tremper with any amount of pattern, and carrot tail isn't a requirement either. I think it comes down to how you personally decide to label them.

 

[snared99]

Anthony is correct
Sunglow/Hybino/Sunburst are all names for animals that carry the hypo gene. Tang trempers are just that trempers with nice tang, not necessarily carrying the hypo gene

 

[Gazz]

Talbino normal tangerine X [1C]Talbino enigma = .

Talbino normal.
[1C]Talbino enigma.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
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Talbino normal tangerine X [2C]Talbino enigma = .

[1C]Talbino enigma.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
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Talbino normal tangerine X [1C]Talbino super hypo tangerine HET Eclipse = .

Talbino normal Poss-HET Eclipse.
[1C]Talbino hypo Poss-HET Eclipse.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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Talbino normal tangerine X [2C]Talbino super hypo tangerine HET Eclipse = .

[1C]Talbino hypo Poss-HET Eclipse.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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Talbino normal tangerine X [1C]Talbino super hypo tangerine = .

Talbino normal.
[1C]Talbino hypo.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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Talbino normal tangerine X [2C]Talbino super hypo tangerine = .

[1C]Talbino hypo.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.

 

[Tony C]

Anthony is correct
Sunglow/Hybino/Sunburst are all names for animals that carry the hypo gene. Tang trempers are just that trempers with nice tang, not necessarily carrying the hypo gene

Using that definition, the offspring with a Sunglow parent will either be 50% normal and 50% hypo, or 100% showing varying degrees of hypo influence, depending on if hypos are polygenic or Dominant/Codominant. I don't have an opinion to give in that debate, but I would be interested to see which model the cross follows if you make it.

 

[Gazz]

[1C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X Talbino blizzard = .

Talbino normal HET Blizzard.
[1C]Talbino hypo HET Blizzard.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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[2C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X Talbino blizzard = .

[1C]Talbino hypo HET Blizzard.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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[1C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X [1C]Super hypo tangerine carrottail = .

Normal HET Talbino.
[1C]Hypo HET Talbino.
[2C]Hypo HET Talbino.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
A percent of hypo offspring will be influanced by carrottail.
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[2C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X [1C]Super hypo tangerine carrottail = .

[1C]Hypo HET Talbino.
[2C]Hypo HET Talbino.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
A percent of hypo offspring will be influanced by carrottail.
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[2C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X [2C]Super hypo tangerine carrottail = .

[2C]Hypo HET Talbino.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
A percent of hypo offspring will be influanced by carrottail.
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[1C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X [1C]Talbino enigma = .

Talbino normal.
[1C]Talbino enigma.
[1C]Talbino hypo.
[1CH,1CE]Talbino hypo enigma.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo type offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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[2C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X [1C]Talbino enigma = .

[1C]Talbino hypo.
[1CH,1CE]Talbino hypo enigma.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo type offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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[1C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X [2C]Talbino enigma = .

[1C]Talbino enigma.
[1CH,1CE]Talbino hypo enigma.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo type offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.
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[2C]Talbino super hypo tangerine X [2C]Talbino enigma = .

[1CH,1CE]Talbino hypo enigma.

A percent of offspring will likely be influanced by Tangerine.
A percent of hypo type offspring will likely mature into Super hypo.

 

[Taquiq]

Hypo Tang Albinos could be defined as SunGlow's but SHTCT's Albinos are usually nicer and more expensive. SunGlow has to be carrying the Hypo gene.

 

[Gekkon]

What about the picture of geckos? What morphs are they exactly?

 

[Tony C]

Hard to say right now, it depends on how the pattern develops as they grow. What were they sold to you as?

 

[Gekkon]

These are my friend's geckos. He said that they were sold as tremper albino and ta het sunglow

 

[Tony C]

There is no such thing as a het Sunglow, as the Tangerine part of the equation is a linebred trait. I would agree that the smaller one is a plain Tremper, and depending on how the pattern develops on the larger one he may fit the definition of a Sunglow given by Anthony and Pat, or turn out to be a Tangerine Tremper.