A little worried... help?

[LeopardShade]

It's an all-in-one calcium + vitamin supplement. I'm almost positive it contains d3 as well.

I do like your suggestions for supplementation as well, as it makes use of the products I already have.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

I should have said in the other post, prior to breeding season, I used only Rephashy. When my geckos would go off food during this time, I felt it was necessary to have calcium available to them. That's why only my breeding females have the dish, and they did use it. The males went off food too but I wasn't concerned because they weren't producing eggs that would drain their body. When I first started using Rephashy's I dusted every insect. I tend to be a heavy duster, and goobs began to pop up. That's why I had to cut back. It was the only thing that had changed. Hope this makes some sense.

 

[LeopardShade]

It makes sense, don't worry.

Alright, I have officially decided to make an effective use of all my products that I currently own, along with the pure calcium I ordered. Both my geckos eat 3-4 times a week. I will be dusting with repashy twice a week. One more question, I promise, and then I'll be off your backs. Does Repashy contain d3?

 

[Wild West Reptile]

One more question, I promise, and then I'll be off your backs. Does Repashy contain d3?

Yes, it does.

You can do what you want, but if you are feeding geckos that aren't breeding, you don't need to leave a dish of calcium in their cage. I talked directly to the people who make the product and to breeders who use it and swear by it, and they both said that there is ZERO need for calcium dishes anymore. I have very healthy geckos and all I've been using is the Repashy products and nothing else for over 5 months. It doesn't get any easier than that.

If you do decide to put a calcium dish in, make sure it's a NON D3. I actually put non D3 in with my AFT breeding girls as they gobble it up when laying. I did not put it in with my laying leo's this season, per the advice of the makers of Repashy, and I had a 100% egg hatch rate. No duds were laid. It just seems that AFT's require more when the girls are laying.

In saying all of that, everyone has different opinions, feelings and ways of doing things, so just decide what works for your geckos and go with it. I say stick to what's the easiest and best for the geckos. Good luck!

 

[animeavatar]

Am I supposed to dust every feeding( every insect)?

 

[gecko4245]

To start off, I apologize for asking so many questions on this particular sub-forum. Supplements can be so confusing...

I've done some browsing and reading around on this sub-forum and I'm a little worried. I'm probably going to get some heat for this... Okay, so I started using Repashy Calcium Plus a while back, and for the past couple months I've just been leaving a dish of it in the enclosure and not dusting the feeders at all.

I feel completely irresponsible, stupid, and most of all confused because I don't know if that's an acceptable way to be using the supplement and in doing so I don't know if I'm oversupplementing them or undersupplementing. I have searched for a good hour or so on this forum/etc. and I have seen no one use this product as I have been using it, so therefore I cannot figure out for the life of me if leaving a dish of Calcium Plus in the tank and not dusting the feeders is dangerous to the lizards' health or if it is fine. The possibility of it being dangerous to do so makes me feel horrible inside, exposing my geckos to bad practices that could damage their health because of my ignorance. And for months too!

I haven't seen any negative changes in the geckos while using Repashy like this, except recently, I've noticed that both of my leos have developed the "goobs" - excess calcium/protein pockets? Is this from oversupplementation by leaving the Repashy in a dish open in the tank? I always thought they just took it in when they needed it and therefore would control the vitamin/mineral intake by themselves....

In the end, I just end up confused. I would really appreciate some answers, especially on whether using Calcium Plus like this is dangerous or safe.

Look at what Gregg M wrote:

http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=57041

 

[contracteryin]

Thanks for asking this xD I was just wondering the same thing as well actually... I dust my feeders every other feeding or so with the repashy, and I've been keeping a dish in there...
There seems to be no problems with them though, they seem perfectly fine, but I'm going to for sure take the bowl out and find some non-D3 calcium to put in there.

 

[gecko4245]

It's an all-in-one calcium + vitamin supplement. I'm almost positive it contains d3 as well.

I do like your suggestions for supplementation as well, as it makes use of the products I already have.

I was reading bottle of zoo med repticalcium with D and it says 2.5 ounces per every (71 grams of weight) a week.

The vitD3 is 10,390IU

Can you tell me how much D3 is in the repashy?

 

[LeopardShade]

Look at what Gregg M wrote:

http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=57041

What he is saying is exactly what I'm doing for now. I'm cutting off supplement and not going to dust the food until I notice that the lumps are gone. I don't know how long that will be, though. I'm also upping the geckos' water intake by misting their food a bit, as well as giving them some lukewarm water soaks.

After some heavy thinking throughout the day, I understand now that Repashy is all that I really will need, no dish in the enclosure. Sorry it took this long, Chris, for you to get to me. The calcium I ordered, that'll still definitely come in handy some time or another, but I understand I do not need a dish if I'll be dusting twice a week. Unfortunately I don't think I have the most updated formula of Calcium Plus, as I have the kind distributed by T-Rex and sold as "Leopard Gecko Calcium Plus", but I'll be sure to buy a bottle straight from Allen when I run out of this one. I know I've asked this question multiple times, but could dusting twice out of the four meals my geckos usually eat in a given week oversupplement them w/ d3 and/or excess vitamins? I may be answering my own question by saying this, but I guess if the directions say to dust with every feeding then it won't hurt two out of four feedings. Am I correct?

I want to thank you all again for helping me through this. I've looked through my past posts and have seen that I have been very repetitive and worrisome and I thank you all for putting up with me. I will update on my geckos if the lumps go down in a couple of days.

 

[gecko4245]

What he is saying is exactly what I'm doing for now. I'm cutting off supplement and not going to dust the food until I notice that the lumps are gone. I don't know how long that will be, though. I'm also upping the geckos' water intake by misting their food a bit, as well as giving them some lukewarm water soaks.

After some heavy thinking throughout the day, I understand now that Repashy is all that I really will need, no dish in the enclosure. Sorry it took this long, Chris, for you to get to me. The calcium I ordered, that'll still definitely come in handy some time or another, but I understand I do not need a dish if I'll be dusting twice a week. I know I've asked this question multiple times, but could dusting twice out of the four meals my geckos usually eat in a given week oversupplement them w/ d3 and/or excess vitamins? I may be answering my own question by saying this, but I guess if the directions say to dust with every feeding then it won't hurt two out of four feedings. Am I correct?

I want to thank you all again for helping me through this. I've looked through my past posts and have seen that I have been very repetitive and worrisome and I thank you all for putting up with me. I will update on my geckos if the lumps go down in a couple of days.

I am still researching alot because it's hard to know what is too much.
A veterinarian, Dr. Keith Benson, who was on my Turtle-l mailing list said regarding Vitamin D3 or Solar drops: "What I find interesting is that the dose is given irrespective of the size of the animal. Surely this will result in some overdosing and under dosing. D3 is considered (and this is based on very little, data) safe at about 100 IU/kg/week in reptiles. The material in the bottle claims to have 1,500 IU per ml, and one drop averages about 1/20 of an ml. That would be like giving 750 IU - theoretically enough to treat 7.5 kilograms of reptile. Now, I realize that the dose might be higher than the one above, or lower - no one knows, even the folks that make this product Consider how concentrated this material is, then consider the damage that overdosing vitamin D can do (renal disease, soft tissue mineralization etc.) and I would say that until more data regarding the metabolism of this material in reptiles is know I would choose not to use it."

http://www.thegeckospot.net/leocareindex2.php

 

[LeopardShade]

That is a great article, thank you for sharing it.

I'm very indecisive, as you probably have seen, my mind keeps wandering from one method (using regular calcium daily, d3 once a week, and repashy every other; that method is particularly convenient for me as it makes use of all the products I currently have), or just using straight repashy twice a week.

Once again, I do apologize for my indecisiveness, really, I find myself incredibly irritable.

 

[gecko4245]

That is a great article, thank you for sharing it.

I'm very indecisive, as you probably have seen, my mind keeps wandering from one method (using regular calcium daily, d3 once a week, and repashy every other; that method is particularly convenient for me as it makes use of all the products I currently have), or just using straight repashy twice a week.

Once again, I do apologize for my indecisiveness, really, I find myself incredibly irritable.

It's confusing because I have always read the calcium and multivitamins should not be mixed in the same bottle.
However the herpetoculturist should be aware that many of the premixed vitamin/mineral mixes have a shortened shelf life as the minerals may catalyze decomposition of the other ingredients.

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