Aptor, Raptor, Eclipse

[Halley]

I was wondering if some of you could help me with the A.P.T.O.R, R.A.P.T.O.R, and eclipse genes. I know to creat the aptor that Tremper combined the following genes.
Designer Patternless
Jungle Phase
Albino
Carrot-head
Carrot-tail,
Banded
Reverse Strip
Tanigerine
and Giant

So i get that the A.P.T.O.R has these genes, but somepeople have told me that the raptor is an albino eclipse, and that it is an albino aptor. I know that the eclipse just has black eye, and Tremper told me that the eclipse lack the banded, and jungle phase. So is the only differnece between the eclipse and aptor the eye color, and and the jungle and banded phase.

The other thing that i don't totally understand is the strip patterns, i know that a gecko can only express one at a time, but which one comes first, and are the recessive, or line breed?

Also i have heard that the aptor genes act as one recessive gene, is this true, and if so how is that even possible?

Thank you for all of your help

 

[chad ramsey]

try posting it in the morph and genetics forum.

 

[Halley]

Where is this fourm, i'm new to this, and it took me a while to learn how to post this one?

 

[Leopardgeckosunlimited]

Im pretty new to this also, but I belive we are in the morphs and genetics section...???

As for your questions. A RAPTOR is not a albino APTOR, because an APTOR already has the albino gene, so there is no need to say "albino". RAPTOR stands for...

R- Red eyed
A- Albino
P- Patternless
T- Tremper (the strain of albino)
OR- ORange (Tangerine color)

The APTOR is the same as the RAPTOR except for the red eyes. It has normal tremper albino eyes. An eclipse is the non-albino form of the RAPTOR. If you add the albino gene to the Eclipse, it will change the solid black eyes to red..

Henry Carota
Leopard Geckos Unlimited
http://www.leopardgeckosunlimited.com

 

[Mel&Keith]

Im pretty new to this also, but I belive we are in the morphs and genetics section...???

It could be that a moderator moved it to this section after that post.

 

[Mel&Keith]

I would recommend searching through this Morphs and Genetics section and reading through all of the threads. There are a lot of threads identical to this so you'll probably find the answers you need. You can also use the search function if you think of something specific.

 

[Baker14]

Here is a great stripe variations guide:
http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=18629

 

[Halley]

Thank you all

 

[godzillizard]

To be frank, the pattern in the (R)aptor is essentially a "super" stripe: when breeding jungles together, eventually came the stripes. Then, from breeding stripes, the reverse stripes emerged. Then when reverse stripes were developed, out came the "patternless stripe" or as i like to call it, "super stripe"--think of a geckos pattern as a rubber band--a jungle would be a tangled, balled up rubber band--and then a stripe would be an untangled relaxed rubber band--and then a reverse stripe would be a slightly stretched out rubber band--then a Patternless stripe would be a rubber band stretched to its limit...