Baby Morph ID?

[Phoenix1115]

I got these two babies the other week. I fell victim to the "+++++ rescue effect" haha. Anyways, I saw them and felt bad, and had to get them. I was looking for a new addition anyways. Anyways, I have no idea what morphs they are. Can anyone help me out? Also, age estimates would be helpful too =) I was told they were 3 or 4 months.

(Disclaimer: Yes, I know the brown one is very thin, and the both have stuck sheds. That's why I bought him. I haven't seen him eat any crickets yet, but today he did eat a waxworm, so he's making a little progress.)

Also, sorry for the terrible lighting. But believe it or not, it actually captures their natural colors pretty well. They're a little washed out, but generally this color. The tiny frail looking one actually has a slight orange tinge to the base of his tail which isn't captured well, but that's about it.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

I can't help with morphs, but these guys are definitely not 3-4 months. More like 1 month. And make sure you keep an eye on the skinnier one. If it's that skinny and was presumably being housed with others, then it was probably being bullied out of getting to eat, so make sure that doesn't continue to happen. It wouldn't hurt to have them both tested for parasites either.

~Maggot

 

[Lindz0518]

One looks like a jungle, the skinny one looks like a patternless. Maybe someone else will chime in too. I think separating them would be the best.

Edit- Also, I wouldn't feed waxworms to them. They have hardly any nutritional content. They are only recommended a few times a month as a treat, if that. I would stick with crickets and mealworms, you could always take the back legs off the crickets to make them easier to catch.

 

[lisa127]

I agree with Lindz on the morphs.

 

[DrCarrotTail]

Yeah I agree that the lighter yellow one looks like a Murphy's Patternless and the other looks like a tangerine to me - if the spots stay then jungle, if they fade away its probably a hypo tangerine. They do look skinny - especially the patternless. Keeping them separate and doing away with the wax worms until they're a bit healthier are good pieces of advice.

Good luck with them!

 

[lisa127]

I personally don't think the jungle looks all that bad weight wise for a gecko that young. The patternless needs fattening up though.

 

[Phoenix1115]

Thanks everyone! I do separate them to feed. The only reason they are together now is because the other heat pad on the other tank stopped working. So I figured I'd put the other one on heat in the same tank until I could get another heat pad.

As far as the wax worm goes, I've been trying with mealworms and crickets since I got them, and this was the first time I tried a wax worm. I figured it's better to get something in his belly than nothing, right? Maybe now he'll be more apt to try eating. I read online that you can try to put chicken baby food on their nose so they lick it off to give them a little protein and help them kick into feeding mode. Do you think that would work, or is that a bad idea since they are insectivores?

 

[Lindz0518]

Thanks everyone! I do separate them to feed. The only reason they are together now is because the other heat pad on the other tank stopped working. So I figured I'd put the other one on heat in the same tank until I could get another heat pad.

As far as the wax worm goes, I've been trying with mealworms and crickets since I got them, and this was the first time I tried a wax worm. I figured it's better to get something in his belly than nothing, right? Maybe now he'll be more apt to try eating. I read online that you can try to put chicken baby food on their nose so they lick it off to give them a little protein and help them kick into feeding mode. Do you think that would work, or is that a bad idea since they are insectivores?

I wouldn't use the baby food but that is just me. I would keep trying the mealworms and crickets. The bad thing about waxworms is they have basically no nutritional value and leopard geckos will get where they will not eat other food items, it seems they actually can get addicted to waxworms and they are way too fatty to be a staple in the diet.

 

[Lindz0518]

You could maybe mash up some mealworms and put on it's lip

 

[Embrace Calamity]

Thanks everyone! I do separate them to feed. The only reason they are together now is because the other heat pad on the other tank stopped working. So I figured I'd put the other one on heat in the same tank until I could get another heat pad.

As far as the wax worm goes, I've been trying with mealworms and crickets since I got them, and this was the first time I tried a wax worm. I figured it's better to get something in his belly than nothing, right? Maybe now he'll be more apt to try eating. I read online that you can try to put chicken baby food on their nose so they lick it off to give them a little protein and help them kick into feeding mode. Do you think that would work, or is that a bad idea since they are insectivores?

I've been told that the preservatives in the baby food are bad for them, so unless you had organic stuff, I wouldn't.

The waxworms are fine imo. They're too high in fat for regular leos, but for one this skinny, it's fine to increase fat intake until they gain some weight. Something else is better, but it's not the end of the world if that's what it'll eat. It's important to get it to eat, but at the same time, just like all other leos, it's going through the transition of a new place and might not be too keen on eating right away. So don't force it too much, or you'll just be stressing it out more. Now that it's in a good home, I'm sure it'll do fine. The mashed mealworms is a good idea worth trying (if you have the stomach for it).

EDIT: Here's a chart of the nutritional contents of different feeder insects, for reference.
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/facehugger/insect.html

~Maggot

 

[Phoenix1115]

I feel like mashing mealworms won't really create a paste since they're mostly exoskeleton, will it? Should I try mashing a superworm instead?

 

[Embrace Calamity]

I feel like mashing mealworms won't really create a paste since they're mostly exoskeleton, will it? Should I try mashing a superworm instead?

There's some goo inside of them, so you'll get something, though you might get more with a super. The latter has more fat, protein, carbs, calcium, and fiber, so that might be a better choice for one so skinny.

~Maggot

 

[Phoenix1115]

Cool. Went to the store today to get crickets and they were out of small ones. Might pick up some supers tomorrow too when I go back

 

[katie_]

Its not a jungle if it has full bands on its tail.

 

[Lindz0518]

Its not a jungle if it has full bands on its tail.

So that means it's an Aberrant, right?

 

[Phoenix1115]

I'm getting varying answers with that guy where ever I ask. Im gathering it's most likely at least a tangerine.

Update on the skinny guy: this is the third day in a row I've gotten him to take mealworms, and multiple at that! He's even taking from tongs now too so I've got a pretty good feeling he's going to be just fine

 

[iCandiBallPythons]

I have one exactly like that. The 2 pics im posting shows the diff between when I first got it and what it looks like now.

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[Phoenix1115]

Oh cool!! So what are you calling that, morph wise?

 

[Phoenix1115]

Thought I'd give you an update!

The orange one is about to shed so he's a little pale but they've sure gained weight!

 

[Embrace Calamity]

They're very cute. Good to know they're doing well. I especially like the patternless.

~Maggot