Hello everyone, I am pretty new to the genetics of leopard geckos but would like to get into some breeding. I really like all the blizzards and was thinking i would start there. I am going to have a 20 gal setup, so i was thinking 1 male and 3 females. I would like to produce normal blizzards, eithers snow blizzard or blazing blizzards, and bananna blizzards. So my question to you experts is what morphs would your male and females be ot get these offspring?
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The easy way would be to just say "do this and this and this", but if you seriously want to breed, it would be good for you to have your own understanding about the genetics, at least recessive, dominant and co-dominant.
I'll do one for you:
to produce a snow blizzard, you have to have both parents who are either blizzards or het for blizzard (if you don't know what this means, do some forum search or googling) and one or both parents need to be snows. If both parents are blizzards, all the offspring will be blizzard; if both parents are het for blizzard, 25% of the offspring will be blizzard; if 1 is blizzard and the other is het, 50% of the offspring will be blizzard. If 1 parent is snow as well, 50% of the babies will be snow; if both parents are snow, 25% of the offspring will be supersnow, and 50% snow. These percentages, of course, are statistical and not guaranteed percentages. If you check into what makes up blazing blizzard and banana blizzard and determine whether those traits are dominant, recessive or co-dominant, you should eventually be able to work it out for yourself which I think is a reasonable requirement before breeding and adding even more geckos to the market.
Good luck,
Aliza
I'll do one for you:
to produce a snow blizzard, you have to have both parents who are either blizzards or het for blizzard (if you don't know what this means, do some forum search or googling) and one or both parents need to be snows. If both parents are blizzards, all the offspring will be blizzard; if both parents are het for blizzard, 25% of the offspring will be blizzard; if 1 is blizzard and the other is het, 50% of the offspring will be blizzard. If 1 parent is snow as well, 50% of the babies will be snow; if both parents are snow, 25% of the offspring will be supersnow, and 50% snow. These percentages, of course, are statistical and not guaranteed percentages. If you check into what makes up blazing blizzard and banana blizzard and determine whether those traits are dominant, recessive or co-dominant, you should eventually be able to work it out for yourself which I think is a reasonable requirement before breeding and adding even more geckos to the market.
Good luck,
Aliza
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When you say you are starting with blizzards does that mean you will be getting rid of them after you are done? Research before you start breeding. It isn't a get rich quick thing. IMO, since they live for upwards of 35 years, pick a morph you want to look at for that long. You can always add more later.
Well thank you for the response, my starting out with blizzards i just meant as my first setup i do plan to keep them. So I do understand some of the genetics it just gets a little confusing when trying to think of several lines at once.
So if I had a full blizzard male and a snow/blizzard female this would produce 50% snow and 50% blizzard. I get this part but how does it work with the banana blizzard was my main question? If I had a full blizzard male and mated him with a bell albino how would this work since they are both recessive traits? Sorry for the newb questions I have researched alittle genitics just trying to piece it all together now. Also assuming I am correct in wanting a blizzard male what would your guys other pick for a female be and why? I am just trying to get some ideas before I start this project so I know where I am going with it.
So if I had a full blizzard male and a snow/blizzard female this would produce 50% snow and 50% blizzard. I get this part but how does it work with the banana blizzard was my main question? If I had a full blizzard male and mated him with a bell albino how would this work since they are both recessive traits? Sorry for the newb questions I have researched alittle genitics just trying to piece it all together now. Also assuming I am correct in wanting a blizzard male what would your guys other pick for a female be and why? I am just trying to get some ideas before I start this project so I know where I am going with it.
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No on else has pointed this out, but a 20 gallon long tank is usually a good size for ONE single leopard gecko. I'm not sure because I one have one gecko, but I believe a good size for 4 geckos would be a 40 gal tank? I'm really not sure, can someone else chime in here? I just know a 20 gal is way too small for 4 geckos.
And, if you're going to breed 3 females, each female can produce 20 offspring per season. Do you have a rack with 60 tubs waiting for babies? Then homes for them all, or most of them? Just something to think about, I know you are not asking those questions yet, only about the morphs.
I wish I could tell you more about blizzards, but that is the morph I know least about :/
If you bred a Blizzard x Bell Albino, you would get all normals that would be het for Bell Albino and Blizzard.
Breeding a Normal het Blizzard het Bell back to a Blizzard parent would give
25% Normal het Blizzard
25% Blizzard
25% Normal het Blizzard, Bell
25% Blizzard het Bell.
Play around with this morph calculator
http://www.lovegeckos.com/Genetics.aspx
IMO, those would be a lot of geckos that look exactly the same; all white. Banana blizzards aren't their own trait, they just have been line bred to be more and more yellow, you can't just produce them from other blizzard morphs. All of the blizzards are pretty much all white, they might get a little boring, not to mention VERY easy to get mixed up! This is just my opinion though, some people LOVE blizzards
It doesn't really matter about the female. Just pick another morph that you like. Any recessive morph x blizzard will give you Normals het Blizzard, het (other morph) so it just depends on what you like. Any Blizzard x Dominant trait, lets say for example the Mack Snow Morph, will give you
50% Normal het Blizzard
50% Mack Snow het Blizzard
And, if you're going to breed 3 females, each female can produce 20 offspring per season. Do you have a rack with 60 tubs waiting for babies? Then homes for them all, or most of them? Just something to think about, I know you are not asking those questions yet, only about the morphs.
I wish I could tell you more about blizzards, but that is the morph I know least about :/
If you bred a Blizzard x Bell Albino, you would get all normals that would be het for Bell Albino and Blizzard.
Breeding a Normal het Blizzard het Bell back to a Blizzard parent would give
25% Normal het Blizzard
25% Blizzard
25% Normal het Blizzard, Bell
25% Blizzard het Bell.
Play around with this morph calculator
http://www.lovegeckos.com/Genetics.aspx
IMO, those would be a lot of geckos that look exactly the same; all white. Banana blizzards aren't their own trait, they just have been line bred to be more and more yellow, you can't just produce them from other blizzard morphs. All of the blizzards are pretty much all white, they might get a little boring, not to mention VERY easy to get mixed up! This is just my opinion though, some people LOVE blizzards
It doesn't really matter about the female. Just pick another morph that you like. Any recessive morph x blizzard will give you Normals het Blizzard, het (other morph) so it just depends on what you like. Any Blizzard x Dominant trait, lets say for example the Mack Snow Morph, will give you
50% Normal het Blizzard
50% Mack Snow het Blizzard
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Tank size: it's true that many people prefer to keep their single leopard gecko in a 20 gallon long tank, but it's fine for 2. I actually keep 3 and sometimes 4 in a 20 long because I have built a 12"x12" heated upper level which gives me 144 sq. inches more of "floor" space.
As far as the morph outcomes go, remember that blizzard and albino are recessive which means that if only 1 parent has the blizzard gene, you will not produce blizzard babies but will have to breed them back to the blizzard parent or to each other.
A full blizzard male and a snow/blizzard female would actually produce 100% blizzards and statistically 50% of them would be snow blizzards.
Aliza
As far as the morph outcomes go, remember that blizzard and albino are recessive which means that if only 1 parent has the blizzard gene, you will not produce blizzard babies but will have to breed them back to the blizzard parent or to each other.
A full blizzard male and a snow/blizzard female would actually produce 100% blizzards and statistically 50% of them would be snow blizzards.
Aliza
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