Caging questions? Help a noob out?

[Reborn]

Looking to get a few gars but with all the caging out there and all the caresheets everything is different. Whats a good sized cage for 2? maybe 3? I hear its better to house a male and female vs female female and male(true?) Also they need humidity so are them screen cages any good for them? We normally make our own cages but curious as to if there any good for gars. Also any little tips would be great;D

 

[T-ReXx]

I don't personally keep gargs (YET hahaha) but from what I understand the main issue with them is aggression. Males and females get along better than females and females, and multiple males obviously doesn't work. Most garg breeders keep animals singly or in pairs. As far as caging goes there are a few I might recommend. The Zilla Acrylic Atriums work very well, I have several and love them. I would consider them big enough for single gargs. The general rule is 10 gal of space per gecko. Sandfire Dragon Ranch also makes a cage, sold as "The Crested Gecko Cage" that is 15inWX15inLX23inH that has three sides of PVC(or acrylic it comes in either form) and has a screen top and screen front with double doors, one at the bottom(making cleaning very easy) and a main door. I have one for a pair of tokays and LOVE it, will be ordering more, potentially housing all my small-medium arboreals in them. I believe they would be quite sufficient for a pair. The 3 solid sides makes mantaining humidity very easy while still getting good airflow. With a full screen cage unless your house is humid I'd probably cover three sides with plastic.

 

[Reborn]

Thank you T-ReXx very useful info;D definatly will be checking the crested gekco cage one out. I never agreed with the 10 gallon rule. they say thats good for a leo which i find is a lie. So id never condem a animal to anything smaller. Thanks tho^^ I'll definatly be considering them for my gars when i get them;D Like you i dont have them yet but im doing LOTS of research before hand(always do atleast 6 months inadvance to make sure i know what im doing before i get one haha) I also heard about the agression to but hey people can dream lol LOVE the gars alot more then crested and if it takes single cages to have a few im all for it. Happy healthy lives who needs breeding them when there that pretty^^ or thats how i see it:main_thumbsup:

 

[Hannibal]

Gargoyles can and usually are aggressive towards each other, so best to house them by themselves. I have been nipped at a couple times, and have one girl that will bite and won't let go for up to 5 minutes...she thinks she a Tokay and has drawn a little blood.

We keep our gargoyles in their own enclosures (even babies)...adults are in Exo Terra screened 18"x18"x24" or 24"x18"x24" enclosures; juvies in 10 gallon, and babies in large Kritter Keepers. Most people use glass or acrylic enclosures for their adults, but we prefer the screened for our gargoyles as they don't stick to glass or acrylic like Crested Geckos due and our gargoyles love to climb. They climb their screens, branches, vines, plants, bamboo....you put it in their enclosure and they will climb all over it. We mist ours 2x a day (heavy at night and light during day) and keep their humidity between 75-45; temps are between 80-68; and we do use low level UVB lighting just for daylight cycling. We use eco earth substrate in all our juvi and adult enclosures (babies get paper towels). We exclusively feed Rapashy Crested Gecko Diet every other night and on occasion they get calcium dusted crickets.

 

[SnakeKeeper]

I agree with what has been said; gargs do best housed alone to avoid aggression issues. As for cages, you can use just about anything, as long as it's got enough ventilation. I personally love screen cages, and I live in a desertish area where the average humidity is around 10%. I mist my gargoyle's cage heavily twice a day and give her plenty of water. Sure, the humidity drops waaay down within an hour after misting, but bidaily misting keeps her hydrated and shedding well, so it really isn't a problem.