Can I use Pheonix and Silk Worms as a staple diet for my Leos and vary from there?

[Topaz]

I have two rescues who have digestive issues, long story. In short the female has great difficulty digesting anything with an exoskeleton. The vets I have consulted feel it may be due to being breed and laying 10 eggs when she was very tiny and under weight, as well as having been kept on sand and Calci sand previously.

Anyway I thought I was going to end up loosing her to impaction. With the help of vets and atozgeckos, I managed to pull her through and get her pooping again. One of the big factors seems to have been giving her wax worms and a Silk worm along with all the other home treatments. Since then She has only been allowed to eat small 2 week old crickets and no mealies or super worms, and again she is not pooping regularly.

The research that I have done seems to be saying that Pheonix worms are able to be used as the staple of a reptiles diet. They are a good source of protein, not high in fat, have a good Cal to Phos ratio and have enough Calcium to feed with out needing to dust, as well as no exoskeleton and lots of moisture. Have I understood correctly?

I have not found a nutritional analysis on Silkworms but have read that they are also good for Leos. I know she really liked it, it has no exoskeleton and has lots of moisture. Can they be fed regularly along with the Pheonix worms?

Then I could just give the occasional cricket and or meal worm, hopefully with out a problem.

Anyone's thoughts?

Tisha

 

[STUTFL]

Poor thing.
Well, this is what the Silkworm Shop says about silkworms: http://www.silkwormshop.com/benefits.html
*shrug* They seem a bit high-maintenance if you can't use 'em all in a couple days, but if you want a Christmas present for your leo... :laugh4:

My leo spits out phoenix worms about 50% of the time unless I offer them with something else and he's hungry - and they were a bit expensive where I got them - but they keep, and they seem like a good feeder. Especially for a gecko that needs calcium.

 

[Tony C]

If you can afford it I don't see why not, they are both very nutritious feeders.

 

[jamncristian]

both are very good feeders and don't require dusting and can be used as a staple diet

the phoenix worm can be bred like earthworms in this special container outdoors http://blacksoldierflyblog.com/the_biopod/ it might be expensive at first but you will save money by never having to buy phoenix worms(black soldier fly larvae) online again!!:main_laugh:

silkworms eat mulberry leaves so if you are lucky enough to have a mulberry tree or buy one you will never need to buy silkworm chow and will be easier to take care of. They can be bred too but it is a little harder

good luck:main_thumbsup:

 

[MiamiLeos]

I swear by phoenix worms. I think theyre the best feeder ever!! lol