Cloning/genetic engineering with reptiles

[bubblez825]

I am doing a lesson at school about genetic engineering and cloning. I was wondering what u guys say about cloning? I dont think animals OR humans should be genetically engineered or cloned. Yes, we do get nice leos and/or other reptiles that we wish to make more of(my personal fav is tang enigmas and MSS )and/or make thru science to "customize our own hatchlings, but is it right? Should we be allowed to clone leopard geckos, snakes, and other reptiles? Should only in SCIENCE for reaserch should it be allowed? What do u guys think?

I'm srry if i dont make sense(or my questions ) please forgive me LOL. this didnt come out sounding like i thought it would :main_laugh:


Emily

 

[Amber7399]

well emily this is wonderfull debate subject as well. lol my physcology class had to do a debate on this a couple yrs ago..

Simple answer: NO, personally i feel cloning is not a good idea.

Complex Answer: Maybe, there may however be certain instances when i believe that it would be accecptable, possiably even beneficial. (but def not animals. or humans!) say maybe plant life (if possiable) or organs. if somone neeeded a kidney transplant or something to live, but then who is going to be able to afford to have there healthy organs cloned just to keep somewhere in a freezer.. "just incase" so then would it only (like many other things) be reserved for the rich & famous?

I see no reason to want/need to clone Geckos, reptiles in general, mammals, fish, insects, inverts etc.. Just my opinions

 

[fallen_angel]

The world is already overpopulated, we don't need to clone people, we need more population control.

If cloning an animal, plant, or human organ is going to be beneficial, then I would be all for it; but there is never just one side to anything. Even if people used cloning for beneficial reasons; someone, somewhere out there, would find a way to exploit it and use it for very bad reasons. It all depends if the ends justify the means, does the good outweigh the bad?

 

[Halley]

Well here are my opinions on the matter:

Why shouldn’t we clone or genetically engineer? I think that it could do wonderful things. So what if we make a blue, or green gecko some time in the future? Is that wrong? Not to me. What if we make plants grow faster and grow in hasher environments? WOW, that would be bad, we’d have more food, and maybe we wouldn’t have so many starving people in the world. Yeah, sounds horrible so far. We are even starting to understand how to grow human hearts inside pigs. That sound horrible to me to, we wouldn’t have people dying while waiting on the donor list, and patients would never reject their transplanted heart or other organs again. NO, NO, NO that’s horrible!!!! I think there are TONS of benefits for genetically engineer plants and animals alike. However, I think it has to be left to scientist. People that don’t know what they are doing or have very little understand of what they are doing, could really mess things up and cause a miserable existence to an organism. I think that some organisms will live miserable existences at first when scientists are only experimenting with something, and don’t fully understand it, but any logical person will see that it is for the greater good. However, saying all that, I think that we must control what is allowed and what isn’t, we cannot allow people to go all “willy nilly”.

So in a nut shell, I think cloning and genetically engineering plants and animals is a good thing and can be very beneficial, as long as common sense is used.

 

[Amber7399]

i def agree if "common sense" was used! but like jess said there is always two sides to it.. somebody will always ruin it for another person, who is taking all the steps to do the right thing!

 

[Halley]

i def agree if "common sense" was used! but like jess said there is always two sides to it.. somebody will always ruin it for another person, who is taking all the steps to do the right thing!

Well… It’s true people will use things for wrong, that’s a truth that cannot be ignored, but, way make it illegal in America? We aren’t the only country experimenting with these things. If something happens wouldn’t you rather have people that live here know what is going on? It isn’t like laws are “loose” on these subjects anyways.

My personal feelings are that the pros outweigh the cons by a long shot.

 

[Lena]

I personally believe that science shouldn't be hindered in any way.

We can't learn anything otherwise.

Then again, I'm a minority. I believe in the separation of church and state, etc, etc. I just thing that people can believe what they want to but it shouldn't get involved in science nor government.

 

[Halley]

I personally believe that science shouldn't be hindered in any way.

We can't learn anything otherwise.

Well, I do have to disagree with you on that. I think we have to regulate it, or as other people have said, it WILL turn into a bad thing, with the cons outweighing the pros.

I think somebody once told Bush to say “we must proceed with caution.” I know that was more for stem cell research, but same principle.

 

[SaSobek]

You guys might want to read this. I think that every one has a right to there opinions but if you have an opinion you should know what you are talking about and have some thing to base your opinions off of. This is a paper Written by a friend of mine that happens to be part of a company that clones animals for the development of human therapeutic proteins in the milk of transgenic animals. He is the smartest man that I have ever meet.
http://gtcb.net/images/May2001Gavin.pdf

The company's websitehttp://gtcb.net/index.html
As far as the future of all of this. The goal of cloning is no to make more for the sake of making more. Its is to help the world in some way and have a better understanding of how things work. From talking with my friend on this subject, I personally think that the cure for AIDS and Cancer could lie in the technology that has been understood tried and tested by work done for cloning. They have actually figured out how to make stem cells from any cell in the body by taking done blockers in the cell that tell the cell what to be. Can you imagine you are in heart failure you have months to live and all you have to do is give a skin cell, and they can grow you a new heart. to me even the thought of that is an amazing achievement in science.

of course there will be rules and laws to follow while cloning and there will always be people that are against it. but i think the future is a very bright place for science. as long as we do it responsibly.

And actualy as for cloning geckos I dont think there has been anything so far that has been cloned that has to hatch from and egg bird/reptile

 

[godzillizard]

I agree the possibilities are awe inspiring, but I also feel like our innate fascination with the paradoxical can be very dangerous. It seems like every time we discover a fascinating new technology, it's not long before it's weaponized in some way...

In my world; for every rule, there are multiple exceptions. The more rigidly we try to control something, the less control we will have. Other countries with less regulations will have the best scientists working for them, where they can explore these emerging technologies unimpeded.

 

[PacHerp]

I'm not into the whole cloning thing... We've done just fine so far, why the need?

 

[Halley]

I'm not into the whole cloning thing... We've done just fine so far, why the need?

Why not do better? They did okay without cars for a while to, I wouldn’t want to live without one.

 

[Stevie]

I don't understand why there's is a difference in the poll answers between: "only scientists" and "any one". I for a fact know for sure that not anyone is able to clone or genetically engineer (G.E.) an organism; you have to be a scientist to be able to!! It requires to much special equipment and machines that are not for sale in any D.I.Y-shop. I think cloning and G.E. organisms could be a good thing, but it depends on the reason. Using stem cells to clone human organs, or cows that produce medicine in their milk or that kinds of beneficial purposes, why not? Create more robust plants to increase the production of food, why not?

Many people say: "If man is creating things, you're playing to be God and that is not the way to do it". I think: "If God didn't want us to be able to clone or G.E., He wouldn't made it possible for us to do it!!"

Greets,

Stevie

 

[Baoh]

People like to create false dichotomies of "good" versus "bad" because it's quick and comfortable for the mind unwilling to explore and do the more extensive work when capturing all of the possibilities in between. This is one such example when it comes to common notions.

Cloning is performed all of the time. Most of you like and benefit from the results. Countless lives have been saved and enhanced in quality from it. It is so extensive that most people fail to recognize it when they interact with the product.

The fault lies with an individual's ignorance of the meaning. Applying a political slant to it, as is most commonly done by those who know no better, is the first mistake.

 

[cwazy]

no... its not up to us to screw with life in such a way... if there were ment to be 2 of you walking around, you would of been born with a twin! theres an argument with everything... kind of like the good verses evil... but thats a totally different subject... *shrug*

so simply NO

JMO!